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Stars & Stripes: What GIs need to know about Kosovo
Stars & Stripes ^ | November 12, 2006 | Stella Jatras

Posted on 11/14/2006 6:46:18 PM PST by Bokababe

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To: LenS

["Serbia...attacked Christian Slovenia and ethnically cleansed much of Christian Croatia..."]

I think you need to read a little more on the Civil War in the Balkans my good friend.


21 posted on 11/14/2006 8:03:21 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Bokababe; Hoplite; kronos77; DTA; FormerLib; MadelineZapeezda
.....Osama bin Laden mosque....

Only a Dhimmwit would back the Kosovo Shiptars!

22 posted on 11/14/2006 8:15:21 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
In any "normal" court system, he'd have been sentenced to prison for a large portion of the rest of his life. It's just that the ICTY isn't a "normal" court system, and their sentences have been pathetically lenient across the ethnic spectrum of defendants.

Alas, it's Europe, not Texas, so Carla's destined to swim against the current.

23 posted on 11/14/2006 8:22:01 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: uncbob
Yeah Bubba backed the wrong side but you won't hear about that from the MSM

Worldwide Bubba always threw US miliary support behind the Islamists.

BJ Clintoon, the first Muslim President.

24 posted on 11/14/2006 8:27:46 PM PST by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised)
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To: LenS
Never try to reason with a Serbophile.

They'll come around eventually.

Or not.

= )

25 posted on 11/14/2006 8:37:25 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: LenS
Never try to reason with a Serbophile. They'll try to convince you that Serbia was simply fighting Islam even though they attacked Christian Slovenia...

Really? Just when did Serbia attack Slovenia?

Anyone but a Serbophobe can easily determine that the Slovenia's struggle was against the Yugoslav Federal Government which was headed by non-Serb President.

26 posted on 11/14/2006 8:40:08 PM PST by F-117A
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To: Hoplite
["In any "normal" court system, he'd (Oric) have been sentenced to prison for a large portion of the rest of his life."]

Well that's fine. But understand the bigger picture. What happens is that "normal" people in our community PERCEIVE that the ICTY is biased against Serbs...do you understand what I'm saying?...(and somehow I think you do.)
27 posted on 11/14/2006 8:46:24 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: LenS

Actually, Serbia didn't attack Slovenia, genius. Rather, it was the federal Yugoslav government which was trying to keep Slovenia in the fold. Also, Serbia didn't attack Kosovo. Rather, they were trying to hold on to what they had left, though I certainly don't agree with their methods.


28 posted on 11/14/2006 8:49:30 PM PST by Jacob Kell (MSM-Motherhumping Scumbag Meatheads)
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To: Bokababe
While under the watchful eye of NATO’s Kosovo Forces since 1999...But I thought we were supposed to have troops over there until only Christmas of 1999 - Clinton promised us - oh, never mind......
29 posted on 11/14/2006 8:53:35 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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Anybody see one word about this (what has actually happened there) from the 'liberal' press????


We heard the cry of 'genocide' endlessly from the leftards about the Serbians, but it seems utter silence about the truth.


But then, leftists care little for the truth.

There is a very cold place in Hell for liars and propagandists who make believe they are messengers of truth.
30 posted on 11/14/2006 9:13:06 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: Bokababe
The Kosovo conflict for some reason became a cause-celeb among the elite Lib crowd.

My idiot lib boss at the time was a regular hawk about it, because NPR was all for it :)

31 posted on 11/14/2006 9:20:51 PM PST by lawnguy (Give me some of your tots!!!)
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To: LenS
"Never try to reason with a Serbophile."

Actually, it's more like, "Never try and reason with a Serbophobe". As with most racists, they are missing a brain to start with!

32 posted on 11/14/2006 9:41:06 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
What happens is that "normal" people in our community PERCEIVE that the ICTY is biased against Serbs

Serbian perceptions are in large part the responsibility of the Serbian government. If the Serbs continually choose a government which tells them what they want to hear, rather than giving them the unvarnished truth, then the consequences are theirs to bear.

33 posted on 11/14/2006 9:42:50 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Bokababe

What GIs need to know about Kosovo...




It begins with a 'K' and ends with an 'O'.

And people live there, too! Most of those people eat food, edible food.

And they wear clothes.

See? All you ever needed to know about Kosovo in one quick and easy lesson!

/silliness off


34 posted on 11/14/2006 10:28:54 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Republicans only win if they are conservative. Woe befalls any who forget that.)
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To: lawnguy
My idiot lib boss at the time was a regular hawk about it, because NPR was all for it :)

Every lib I knew at the time was solidly in favor of "Bubba's war" also. CNN and Christiane Amanpour (aka The War Slut) were also actively promoting the war on a nightly basis, if I remember correctly...

35 posted on 11/14/2006 10:36:36 PM PST by nutmeg (In 2008 we will crush the Democrats like the cockroaches they are! -- Mark Levin 11-8-06)
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To: Hoplite
["If the Serbs continually choose a government which tells them what they want to hear, rather than giving them the unvarnished truth, then the consequences are theirs to bear."]

Hoplite you're smarter than this...I mean really, all you have to do is replace the word "Serbs" with "Americans" and then sign the statement (you give above) underneath with the name "Usama Bin Laden."

Now back to reality, how would you compare and contrast the sentence of Milan Babic with that which was given to Nasir Oric?
36 posted on 11/14/2006 10:53:14 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: LenS

Wrong......I suggest you read about the real story of Operation storm and what they accomplished. You have been Fab'ed again. (Fab'ed means fabricated to some extent)...

Also, the Muslims in Kosovo; was that the 100,000 that Cohen said in May 1999 was missing or dead; no, wait it was the 10,000....opppps, no, it must be the 2,108 that they found. But, funny thing, they also fail to mention the 22 Serbs also found in Mass graves, the only real mass grave found that one could claim was a mass grave.

Also, they fail to mention of the 8,000 "murdered Muslims" in Srebrenica, well, apparently several thousand must have been raised from the dead and went to Croatia and others to Bosnia as directed by the CIA working with the ISI. Imagine that...........NO the truth of the matter the Muslims went after the Serbs, and the Serbs responded heavy handed, lost control and yes, they killed POW's....but nowhere near the contrived and exaggerated version. There were never any Rape Camps or genocide......hogwash.

Never try to reason with those that try to hang on to my goverments justification for entering the Balkans.....the truths are exaggerated claims, the reat is contrived or entirely fabricated. yes, the Serbs did allow the paramilitaries to extend their activities.....but, keep in mind who arrested Milosevic.....We committed more violence in Croatia than the Serbs............I'm strickly American and of Anglo Saxon hertiage...nothing to do with Serbs. Lived there five years............we are bringing to light the truth of the COMPLETE FAILURE of the international presence in Kosovo.....

The Invasion of Serbian Krajina

by Greg Elich

http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/elich/krajina.html

E:\My Documents\Kosovo Book\Serbia File\Operation Storm and MPRI.html

[Mr. Elich is a freelance scholar who has written extensively about Yugoslavia.]

In early August 1995, the Croatian invasion of Serbian Krajina precipitated the worst refugee crisis of the Yugoslav civil war. Within days, more than two hundred thousand Serbs, virtually the entire population of Krajina, fled their homes, and 14,000 Serbian civilians lost them lives. According to a UN official "Almost the only people remaining were the dead and the dying." The Clinton administration's support for the invasion was an important factor in creating this nightmare.

The previous month, Secretary of State Warren Christopher and German Foreign Minister Klaus Kinkel met with Croatian diplomat Miomir Zuzul in London. During this meeting, Christopher gave his approval for Croatian military action against Serbs in Bosnia and Krajina. Two days later, the U.S. ambassador to Croatia, Peter Galbraith, also approved Croatia's invasion plan. Stipe Mesic, a prominent Croatian politician, stated that Croatian President Franjo Tudjman "received the go-ahead from the United States. Tudjman can do only what the Americans allow him to do. Krajina is the reward for having accepted, under Washington's pressure, the federation between Croats and Muslims in Bosnia." Croatian assembly deputy Mate Mestrovic also claimed that the "United States gave us the green light to do whatever had to be done." (1)

As Croatian troops launched their assault on August 4, U.S. NATO aircraft destroyed Serbian radar and anti-aircraft defenses. American EA-6B electronic warfare aircraft patrolled the air in support of the invasion. Krajina foreign affairs advisor Slobodan Jarcevic stated that NATO "completely led and coordinated the entire Croat offensive by first destroying radar and anti-aircraft batteries. What NATO did most for the Croatian Army was to jam communications between [Serb] military commands...." (2)
Following the elimination of Serbian anti-aircraft defenses, Croatian planes carried out extensive attacks on Serbian towns and positions. The roads were clogged with refugees, and Croatian aircraft bombed and strafed refugee columns. Serbian refugees passing through the town of Sisak were met by a mob of Croatian extremists, who hurled rocks and concrete at them. A UN spokesman said, "The windows of almost every vehicle were smashed and almost every person was bleeding from being hit by some object." Serbian refugees were pulled from their vehicles and beaten. As fleeing Serbian civilians poured into Bosnia, a Red Cross representative in Banja Luka said, "I've never seen anything like it. People are arriving at a terrifying rate." Bosnian Muslim troops crossed the border and cut off Serbian escape routes. Trapped refugees were massacred as they were pounded by Croatian and Muslim artillery. Nearly 1,700 refugees simply vanished. While Croatian and Muslim troops burned Serbian villages, President Clinton expressed his understanding for the invasion, and Christopher said events "could work to our advantage." (3)


37 posted on 11/15/2006 12:54:40 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill

mark to for later


38 posted on 11/15/2006 12:58:56 AM PST by VirginiaMom
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To: Bokababe

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I am against all Jihad and Muslim irredentism. This malignant "faith" should have been confined to Arabia centuries ago


39 posted on 11/15/2006 1:01:32 AM PST by dennisw ("For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks-- Matt. 12:34)
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To: Hoplite

No, the Albanian jihad started in the mid-1980's and has proceeded since then but only with NATO's misguided assistance.

I just know you hate seeing the truth published in Stars and Stripes.

I know you hope that the Islamofascists will win but it won't be in Kosovo anytime soon.


40 posted on 11/15/2006 3:57:37 AM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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