Posted on 11/12/2006 5:21:18 PM PST by xzins
Now take one more step....heart patients....then another,....diabetics....then another,....surgical patients over 58 years old....then... then.... then....the Rhinelands eutopia.
Capital punishment is a no no over there last I checked in 1994.
"...the high financial cost of keeping desperately ill babies alive should be a factor in life or death decisions.
Everything these days boils down to COST. Who can save them the most money, how they can cut costs so they can have more money to spend, how they can kill the unborn so they can go on living their lifestyles.
Jesus said, "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. YOU CANNOT SERVE BOTH GOD AND MONEY." Matthew 6:24
That was my point. Babies are too expensive to allow to live but murderers must be kept alive indefinitely. Very sick mindset at work there.
Hypocrisy about life, isn't it?
One of my best friends has cerebral palsy. I'm glad her parents didn't decide that it would be too much trouble to let her live.
Unbelievable.
Living souls. Lord have mercy!
The Church of England and Episcopalian Church in the USA have become the Church of Nothing. I have a friend who is a devout Episcopalian and not in good health - I am sure he will be thrilled to hear how little they care about him.
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller
Community and individuality are not opposites. People cannot survive on their own. When the odds are stacked against you, you must rally with the oppressed and hated.
When a growing oppressive regime is taking hold, you must act, otherwise you will soon face your enemy alone and hopeless.
Strength of community is a strength as much as individualism, as long you are willing to face weaknesses in your own community. Ignoring slacking values will mean that you will be rallied against by those you oppress.
Niemöller affirms we must rally against unhealthy organized regimes. We must also stay vigilant with those that appear to be good natured, as all organisation attracts corruption. Niemöller also warns us that if it is you who are corrupt, then you will face a stronger combined force of foe!
Vexen Crabtree
I think you've nailed the issue. It isn't the quality of life of the disabled; it's the inconvenience to the able.
And those behind this evil decision don't even see the connection.
How long will it be before otherwise, normal conservative Christians, seeing no support for their beliefs and no other way to counter the march of immorality couched behind a Liberal political movement choose, willingly, to convert to the religion that promises morality?
It will be a damed if you do, damned if you don't situation, but many will choose the binding morality and ultra strict social rules over the anything goes for anyone anytime alternative.
Posting my nightmares tonight...
The moral outrage being expressed in this thread presupposes that we have the economic resources to provide unlimited medical care in all areas without having to make the difficult decisions about where else to cut back. If providing care to one premature baby with multiple birth defects means having to withhold asthma treatment to tens or hundreds of adolescents with asthma, then there is a difficult decision to be made, especially when one or more of the asthma patients could die of their disease.
"Unwerte Leben" -- lives that just were not worth anything. And now the Church of England is using the same argument the Nazis used.
**it's the inconvenience to the able.**
Christ was very able and very inconvenienced.
He carried not only his cross, but ours too!
See #33
The example of Christ is always worthy of consideration.
He did not consider equality with God something that He had to hold on to, but instead He lowered Himself to our level, taking on our form.
Compared to Him, everyone else was severely disabled. Yet, He healed them, fed them, loved them, gave His life for them.
Exactly. It makes me think about how much different my life would be if her parents had decided they couldn't take the trouble to care for their child. Fortunately, they're pro-life so it was never an issue for them.
If you haven't hear Prince Charley want Muslums take part in his coronation report is he doesn't want be Defender of Christaian Faith of all faiths OH BOY LOL!
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