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Outrage as Church backs calls for severely disabled babies to be killed at birth
Daily Mail ^ | 12 Nov 06 | Neil Sears

Posted on 11/12/2006 5:21:18 PM PST by xzins

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To: xzins

Does "sick newborn babies" include those who have a genetic tendency to become liberals or Islamic death cult members?


21 posted on 11/12/2006 5:32:18 PM PST by Screamname (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: AmericaUnited

Note to self... take a deep breath and grammer/spell check posts, especially when responding to threads where you want to choke the living daylights out of the articles targets...


22 posted on 11/12/2006 5:32:51 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: xzins

Government is now capitalized but God is not. That is the message between the lines. It is now considered quaint and old fashioned to defend life. The government is accepted by all to be the final arbiter in this decision.

The secularists will eventually win all disputes because government gives ordinary citizens benefits and laws while God just promises eternal life. Benefits and laws are tangible while religious mores, morals and promises are intangible. The "golden calf" remains an object of worship only it is not called that.


23 posted on 11/12/2006 5:32:51 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: vox_freedom

I'm guessing that insurance companies would pay parents to allow the disabled to die. They just haven't had the societal cover to step forward yet with their offers of blood money.

The same with the elderly, severely ill, and infirm.

"Hi, Mr. Smith, I'm with Met Health Insurance and we need to talk about how your NOT receiving care for cancer could result in your heirs receiving benefits that would insure their financial security long after your passing. That would be some wonderful gift for you to leave for them, wouldn't it, Mr. Smith?"


24 posted on 11/12/2006 5:32:51 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins
Maybe I'm just reading this wrong but it almost sounds to me like they're saying that there are times that using every available method to extend life is not always the best decision. Sometimes it is better to let nature take its course.

I know if I had a child who was born with some type of defect that was going to kill them very quickly, I would not want that child to be hooked up to every machine possible to keep him/her alive for a few days or weeks. I would put it into God's hands and trust him to do what he knows is best. If the child dies, then they would be in heaven. If God decided to heal the child, then I would be grateful beyond words.

That said, I would not advocate killing a child because they're blind, deaf, missing an arm or leg, or something along those lines. That would be murder.

25 posted on 11/12/2006 5:32:57 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Just one day without polls would be nice.)
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To: xzins

I would like for him to imagine Jesus, Himself standing right next to him, and then saying that out loud!


26 posted on 11/12/2006 5:33:02 PM PST by Jewels1091
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To: xzins
Statement: "...compassion will override the 'rule' that life should inevitably be preserved."

Response: Pretty scary!

27 posted on 11/12/2006 5:35:02 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AmericaUnited

A multi-media presentation on "Useless Eaters: Disability as a Genocidal Marker in Nazi Germany":

http://www.regent.edu/acad/schedu/uselesseaters/



28 posted on 11/12/2006 5:35:05 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: kinoxi
These fine gentlemen of the church who are so overwrought regarding the pain and suffering of the wee babes should probably be guided on to a different level of existence themselves ~ and as soon as possible.

The rest of us may then struggle on as best we can unhindered with their anguished cries.

29 posted on 11/12/2006 5:35:10 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: xzins; pryncessraych; aroostook war; TheRake; rogator; kellynla; redgirlinabluestate; ...

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If you want on (or off) this Catholic and Pro-Life ping list, let me know!



30 posted on 11/12/2006 5:36:32 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says ? lex injusta non obligat.)
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To: COEXERJ145

I agree with you.


31 posted on 11/12/2006 5:36:40 PM PST by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come...)
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To: xzins; sionnsar; Coleus; wagglebee

OMG, a terrible developement in the Anglican Church.


32 posted on 11/12/2006 5:36:58 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|What if I lecture Americans about America?)
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To: COEXERJ145

I don't think so. The example they used was of a child that is now THREE years old.

But, it wouldn't matter.

God is the only one who decides between life and death. If we do the right thing and try to help, that baby will not live one second longer nor one second less than God will decide.

Our job is to respond to the "good works that God has prepared ahead of time for us to do."


33 posted on 11/12/2006 5:38:29 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

The Times of London's article was vague about the authority of this submission, making it appear that this bishop might have written it on his own hook. But this article makes it appear that the bishop's submission has considerable authority as being the Church of England's position.

Utterly damnable.


34 posted on 11/12/2006 5:38:32 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: xzins
we need to talk about how your NOT receiving care for cancer could result in your heirs receiving benefits that would insure their financial security long after your passing.

I'd change my will so fast it'd make your head spin!

35 posted on 11/12/2006 5:38:34 PM PST by Overtaxed
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To: SevenofNine

"This is for Brit and Aussie Freepers how mighty Church that Henry VIII founded has fallen"

It needs to fall a little more before Prince Charles will be a worthy king and defender of the faith....


36 posted on 11/12/2006 5:38:35 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Constantine XIII
"....(What) is a 'strong proportionate reason'?

Doublespeak for on the wrong side of the cost-benefit ratio.

The cost-benefit ratio is all that the so-called medical ethics people are talking about these days.

37 posted on 11/12/2006 5:39:18 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: Amelia

see #33


38 posted on 11/12/2006 5:40:19 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: RFEngineer
It needs to fall a little more before Prince Charles will be a worthy king and defender of the faith....

That is one of the funniest things I've read/thought about in a while. Prince Charles being 'THE' Defender of the Faith. What's next Bozo The Clown being elevated to be the Pope?

39 posted on 11/12/2006 5:43:08 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: xzins

As Terri Shrivo would say if she could, if you're disabled they'll pull your life support plug to kill you and if you don't die then they'll figure out some other way to kill you,( in my case it was starvation ) !!!


40 posted on 11/12/2006 5:43:56 PM PST by Obie Wan
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