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Pragmatist set to take over [Gates at Defense Dept]
times ^ | November 8, 2005 | Tim Reid

Posted on 11/08/2006 6:29:08 PM PST by freedomdefender

Robert Gates, 59, the man nominated as the new Defence Secretary, is a former Director of the CIA and a foreign policy pragmatist who strongly supports direct negotiations with Iran.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: gates; iran; robertgates
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1 posted on 11/08/2006 6:29:10 PM PST by freedomdefender
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2 posted on 11/08/2006 6:35:12 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy

This is a joke, right?

After listening to the insanity eminating from that corner of the world, do people really think the iranian leadership can be reasoned with? Or even engaged in a civil conversation?

Because I sure don't.


3 posted on 11/08/2006 6:37:27 PM PST by SusaninOhio
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To: Cindy

Thanks for the links, was looking for info on Gates. I had not heard the 'negotiate with Iran' stuff...... Bad news indeed. We cannot negotiate with these crazy Islamofacists. Never!


4 posted on 11/08/2006 6:38:35 PM PST by Imperialist
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To: freedomdefender

Bad news.


5 posted on 11/08/2006 6:39:00 PM PST by Irish Rose (Will work for chocolate.)
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To: freedomdefender

"Pragmatist?" Gross.


6 posted on 11/08/2006 6:39:53 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: freedomdefender
The head of the defense department should not support negotiations with anybody who isn't an ally.
7 posted on 11/08/2006 6:41:26 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: freedomdefender
This is so nuts. No one in Iran has indicated that they want direct negotiations with us.

It's like that Jesse Jackson character just on FOX (Yes, he's back now that his little friends are in office). He says it's time to build a "meaningful coalition" with other powers to deal with Iraq.

Sure, right, get on it, eh.

Recent poll in Germany revealed 15% of them think Germans are "superior to" other people ~ and not surprisingly, Jesse Jackson is one of their admirers in this business about building meaningful coalitions.

We are doomed.

8 posted on 11/08/2006 6:43:46 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SusaninOhio

I wish it was a bad joke.
Apparently it's not.


9 posted on 11/08/2006 6:43:52 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Imperialist

Frankly, we shouldn't "negotiate" with anyone who wants to kill us.
Period.


10 posted on 11/08/2006 6:45:16 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy

This guy sounds like a joke. Bush should have picked a retired general (or even a well-educated Sergeant Major) rather than a career-bearaucrat-turned-college-administrator.


11 posted on 11/08/2006 6:47:22 PM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: Cindy

bump


12 posted on 11/08/2006 6:47:57 PM PST by freedomdefender
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To: Cindy

This situation with Rummy stepping down shows weakness to our enemies. \shudder


13 posted on 11/08/2006 6:48:55 PM PST by Imperialist
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To: backhoe; piasa; copguy

Ping.


14 posted on 11/08/2006 6:52:36 PM PST by Cindy
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To: dr_who_2

"We have Robert Gate's FBI file.
so Hill will control his deals and his style."


15 posted on 11/08/2006 6:53:00 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Imperialist

I understand.


16 posted on 11/08/2006 6:53:11 PM PST by Cindy
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To: freedomdefender

Just like the 30's and the rise of the fascists. Nobody wants to face reality until it's too late.


17 posted on 11/08/2006 6:54:11 PM PST by claudiustg (Iran delenda est.)
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To: Cindy

Bad choice to be SecDef. Pres Bush should quit listening to his father and pick his own people. Gates is not the person to be at DoD. Looks like the kumbyya folks are more entrenched then I thought at the White House.


18 posted on 11/08/2006 7:09:07 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Thanks Aggies for your 12th Man!)
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To: PhiKapMom
I agree that W should stop listening to his father. Bush the Elder was a failed President precisely because he pursued moderate policies that emanated from the likes of people like Gates, Dick Darman and Rich Bond. As well, he prized comity over enmity with the RATS and they ate him alive.

You would expect that after seeing it fail with his father, and his own six years, that this Bush would have learned comity doesn't work with the Washington RATS especially when his first attempt at comity with Ted Kennedy on NCLB has been an abysmal failure that has only gotten him called a liar by his buddy Ted. Nope. He still wants to play nice with the people who hate him. I just don't understand.

I suppose this was foreshadowed by the sudden prominence of James Baker a few weeks ago. Starts coming together now. Doesn't make a bit of sense, but it does come together.

Putting his father's advisors back in power is only going to make a bad situation ten times worse because the RATS are like the Islamofascists—they only understand force. When you make an accommodation with them, you are telling them you're weak. When you smash them in the face, they back off and respect you. Gates is an accommodation.

19 posted on 11/08/2006 7:34:49 PM PST by Dahoser (God bless our troops and at home defenders.)
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To: freedomdefender

Pragmatists surrender with less financial cost.


20 posted on 11/08/2006 7:58:38 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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