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Anti-Giuliani Website Closes Down, and Endorses RUDY!!!
www.race42008.com ^ | November 7, 2006 | Woodrow Eisenhower

Posted on 11/07/2006 6:24:36 AM PST by UncleSamUSA

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To: TommyDale
There are millions who will go third party, rather than be forced to choose between a liberal Democrat and a liberal Republican.

Well, thousands, anyhow. Sorry.

181 posted on 11/14/2006 5:35:54 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: sitetest
Giuliani would be expected to be happy appointing conservative judges. His social liberalism aside, he comes from the prosecutor's side of the courtroom and the executive branch. He is a natural for a judicially prudent Court. As for the positions he "supports," I doubt that he has much commitment to fighting for these things. It appears to me that he is indifferent-to-OK with a lot of this stuff, had to say the right thing(like marching in every parade he could find) to be the boss in NYC, but has no agenda to ram it all into law.

That would do for me because the president has little to do about these matters anyway, as we have seen.

182 posted on 11/14/2006 5:44:20 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: TitansAFC
Vote Rudy at your own risk. You're going to miss us when you find the Liberals less enthusiastic about four more years of Republican Presidency than these early polls suggest.

I don't think it's going to work out that way, for one very simple sober reason. There will be another serious terrorist attack before the 2008 election, and the people will be in no mood for ideological conceits. And they are not going to vote for a female president either, for the same reason.

183 posted on 11/14/2006 5:51:10 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Dark Skies
Im not anti-rudy but I dont see why someone who was would be swayed by such a bizarre change of opinion. If you hated the guy enough to run that website and suddenly decide you love him I think three possible things: Your beliefs are not strongly held so I disregard your opinion, your original opinion wasnt sincere so I disregard your opinion, or your current opinion isnt sincere so I disregard your opinion.
184 posted on 11/14/2006 5:53:56 PM PST by mthom
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To: hinckley buzzard

Dear hinckley buzzard,

"Giuliani would be expected to be happy appointing conservative judges."

I think that Mr. Giuliani would be happy appointing statist judges. Mr. Giuliani displayed more than a little bit of an authoritarian streak both as prosecutor and as mayor. In New York City, that may even be a good thing.

Toward the end of his second term, he floated the idea of using civil forfeiture laws to take the cars of folks ACQUITTED of DUI. Frightening.

I expect he'd appoint judges who would generally cede power to the state.

Some of those folks might be like Justice Rehnquist (a pro-lifer, but a bit of a statist). Others might be more like "justice" Breyer or "justice" Ginsburg, both of whom had no problem with expansion of state power in Kelo vs. New London.

In fact, Mr. Giuliani has praised the appointments of both "justice" Breyer and "justice" Ginsburg, as well as the more recent appointments of Justice Roberts and Justice Alito. So, Mr. Giuliani is comfortable with a wide ideological array of judges and such. Which do we think a President Giuliani would pick? Justices and judges like Messrs. Roberts and Alito, for whom he'd have to fight tooth and nail, and expend significant political capital? Or "justices" like Mr. Breyer or Ms. Ginsburg, where he'd face little or no Republican opposition and overwhelming Democrat support?

A President Giuliani means that the courts will be polluted by social liberals who are also inclined to statism, that's all.

"As for the positions he 'supports,' I doubt that he has much commitment to fighting for these things."

I disagree. For some of these things, he fought passionately while mayor. With others, I've often been surprised how forthright he's been about his views, and when given the opportunity to trim, to obfuscate, to add "nuance," he has usually refused. I believe that he's a rather honest social liberal. Or at least, he has been up until now.

"That would do for me because the president has little to do about these matters anyway, as we have seen."

As I cited in my previous post, the president has more to do with these issues than any other single person in the United States. And only through the power to appoint Supreme Court Justices can the regime of abortion on the demand in the United States be overturned.

I won't vote for Mr. Giuliani, if he's nominated, and I believe that millions of social conservatives and pro-lifers will join me in that decision.


sitetest


185 posted on 11/14/2006 5:59:29 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: mthom
Okay Lady...put down the cocktail and back away.

Now think long and hard.

What the heck are you trying to say?

186 posted on 11/14/2006 6:05:16 PM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Good to hear from you HB. Hope all is well with you.


187 posted on 11/14/2006 6:19:58 PM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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