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To: goldstategop
...what [Kerry] said fits what too many upscale Dems believe: that America's soldiers are only there because they're too poor and too ill-educated to know any better. That's what they mean when they say "we support our troops." They support them as victims, as children, as potential welfare recipients, but they don't support them as warriors and they don't support the mission.

Stein is nearly perfect on these matters. But I'll quibble just a bit with this analysis.

"They support them as victims..." is overly broad. It should say "they support ONLY THE ONES they can portray as victims". Here are the "troops" Dems embrace:

---My recruiter lied to me.
---I only joined for the benefits...not to go to war. Waaaaa!
---I'll have to leave my 3 babies behind & ain't got no husband to take care of 'em.
---As a vet I have to drive 3 HOURS to the nearest VA facility!
---My drill sergeant was mean to me!

---And the worst: Horribly wounded. Better yet...dead.

On that last, note that the American people never responded to the Dems' and MSM's repeated demands to film flag-draped coffins returning to Dover. Patriots understood their motive: portray the fallen as victims, symbols of the folly of war. Any American over 40 understands that "support the troops" only came after Dems woke up with a dreadful hangover from their bacchanalian bender in the 70's (spitting on vets, portraying soldiers as baby killers). They had to rid themselves of the military-loathing label. So they adopted the "we support all victims" strategy.

The above list really could go on and on (and please feel free to add to it). What it will never include---what they do not "support"---is the Hoo-ah warrior who commits violence for their sake. They cannot comprehend the young man or woman who subjugates self to a larger calling.

Bottom line: They do not understand HONOR.

40 posted on 11/05/2006 4:13:47 AM PST by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats! ......and trial lawyers.)
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To: Timeout
The Democrats stopped understanding the country when they decided America was evil and its enemies were were the beacons of progressive goodness.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

43 posted on 11/05/2006 4:17:39 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Timeout
They cannot comprehend the young man or woman who subjugates self to a larger calling.

Bottom line: They do not understand HONOR

Congratulations....You just hit the bull's eye.


81 posted on 11/05/2006 9:26:31 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Fake but Accurate": NY Times)
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To: Timeout
They cannot comprehend the young man or woman who subjugates self to a larger calling.

Boy are you right! What else can we expect from the "let them eat cake" crowd...a bunch of immature, selfish, adolescent goonbahs whose only thought is about self, self, self, who live in a Stepford world of "ought to be" and who are stuck in a timewarp capsule dated 1967?

I was six years old during the Vietnam War--heck we lived about a stones' throw from Haight-Ashbury--and even I could tell that all those people on TV and on the streets weren't just dirty, they were nasty--and had their brains fried on acid! They haven't changed a bit.

I was disgusted with them 40 years ago and I'm just as disgusted now.

91 posted on 11/05/2006 11:47:24 AM PST by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: Timeout

"On that last, note that the American people never responded to the Dems' and MSM's repeated demands to film flag-draped coffins returning to Dover. Patriots understood their motive: portray the fallen as victims, symbols of the folly of war."

Yes - the MSM are anxious to show nightly footage of coffins returning to Dover because that suits their political aims; they are determined never to show video of the people jumping from 95th story windows of the WTC, for the same reason.


96 posted on 11/05/2006 1:51:19 PM PST by WarrenC
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