Posted on 11/01/2006 12:52:06 PM PST by presidio9
ALBANY - The city should slash the number of people who are allowed to carry concealed weapons, Mayor Bloomberg said yesterday.
"We've taken a look at it to see whether we couldn't have fewer," Bloomberg said. "I can tell you one thing: We will keep it to as a minimum as we possibly can."
Bloomberg added that he has asked Police Commissioner Ray Kelly to tackle the issue.
"If you want a gun permit, you should have to really show that your life is in danger, and that having a gun will protect you, will improve the chances of you surviving," the mayor said.
He added that he doesn't have a problem with people who own guns to hunt, but said it doesn't make sense for those in densely populated urban areas.
"I do think that having concealed weapons on the streets of major cities is not something that is in the interests of the citizens of those cities in this day and age, and I don't think the founding fathers really thought about that when they drafted the Constitution," Bloomberg said.
The mayor has been on a much-publicized national campaign to crack down on illegal guns and dealers who sell them.
Yesterday, he traveled to the state Capitol to join Gov. Pataki, who signed a law that will strengthen penalties against those who are carrying a loaded, illegal weapon at the time of their arrest, as long as its outside the home or workplace.
Pataki said, though, that he supports the current law regarding the number of permit-holders.
"I think the law we have is a very good law, and right now, you have to have a permit and I think that is appropriate," he said.
Gun-rights supporters blasted
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BTW, I like the idea of Constitutional rights based on population density. Wonderful idea!
Well that was easy - here it is
Later on the same day that Bratton quit, PO Peter DelDebbio was found guilty of second degree assault. The circumstances of this situation is a text book example of what not to do in a fire fight when you are in plainclothes. DelDebbio was off-duty, on his way home on the IRT subway train in Manhattan.
At the E. 53 St. station, the doors of the train opened, and DelDebbio was faced with panic on the platform, the sound of shots being fired, and the stinging pain in DelDebbio's left arm from having been shot. In front of DelDebbio was a black male with a gun in his hands. DelDebbio's reaction was from his training: stop the action, protect yourself and anyone else who you believe to be in danger, use deadly physical force if necessary. This is just what he did.
Unfortunately, the black male with a gun was a NYC Transit Officer in plainclothes. DelDebbio fired, emptying his revolver, as trained. The male with the gun, Officers Desmond Robinson, did not identify himself in the manner proscribed by all NYC agencies: wear your shield on your outer most garment, wear a cloth band signifying the "color of the day" that all NYC agencies know, and surrender yourself to a properly identified officer, if ordered to. Robinson went down with several shots.
DelDebbio, although off-duty, did what he knew he had to do; Robinson didn't do what he was suppose to do. But DelDebbio was found guilty of second degree assault on Robinson. Police Officers in NYC are now reeling from this verdict, and the cops on the street believe that it will have a chilling effect on the way they operate off-duty, and, in some cases, on-duty. Having been found guilty of a felony, DelDebbio automatically looses his job with the Police Department. Robinson retired on a disability pension, and is suing the City of New York, as well as DelDebbio personally, for fifty million dollars. As of Tuesday, there were two decisions that will effect the NYPD broadly for a good time to come. Where the Police Department goes from here, is anyone's guess.
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If only he and others who think like him would use the same strict rationale when it comes to confiscating our hard earned money as so called "taxes".
Pulling a gun someone is what most people do only if they fear for their lives and don't feel like they have another way to avoid the situation. How many times have you or your friends felt that their lives were threatened?
Good point. You should just stand there and take it (whether it be a simply throat slashing, being raped, or shot in the head) because defending your self "may" harm a bystander. How effing pathetic can you be?
That's right, be a good sheep. Baaahhh.
I'm not a sheep, but I may be on the lamb.
NYC is a far different environment than Houston or Philly. Some of the most densely populated real estate on the planet is in NY.
I wonder what all these doves will do if power is ever disrupted in NYC for 5 or 6 days (terrorist attack for instance). I wouldn't want to be an unarmed sheep counting on someone else in that instance!
It would spread if he had his way.
You are a man? I would have never guessed it. You sound like one tough hombre. Pathetic.
It would spread if he had his way.
It won't spread because he's not gonna get in a position much higher than mayor and because it would drive the population nuts.
I wonder what all these doves will do if power is ever disrupted in NYC for 5 or 6 days (terrorist attack for instance).
Hey pal, we had a terrorist attack, remember? And guess what? The population pulled together...we've had blackouts, and guess what? The only casualties were kids who gorged themselves on ice cream the stores gave away before it melted.
This is the same rhetoric used by people who claimed that concealed carry would result in shootouts at fender benders on crowded Missouri streets.
It hasn't happened.
Bloombrug and The Deadly 100 Mayors are stuck on stupid.
Yep. We have a multitude of daily shootouts with licensed CCW holders in Miami, Tampa, Dallas, Houston, Detroit, Columbus, Cleveland, Tucson, Phoenix, Sante Fe and on and on and on and on. I am surprised that we don't have blood running down the streets from all of these licensed CCW holders indescriminate brandishing and using of firearms against those with whom they come in contact with on a daily basis.
/sarcasm
p.s. Are you for real? Or have you just not been around firearms that much?
yeah, in the meantime, I'm alive and well.
even the NRA won't test the blanket constitutionality of the 2ndA CCW in the SCOTUS - why do you think that is?
its best left to the voters and their elected representative in the states.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
you want to test the constitutionality of blanket CCW in the SCOTUS? the NRA doesn't. don't be too quick to adovcate something, when you might very upset at the outcome.
that's always the balance. If only those Amish children had guns, they could have stopped that school shooting.
all I am saying is, in a place like NYC, we achieve a "balance" against the criminal element - by having 40,000 police. I am not saying that policy works everywhere, or that Texas needs to do the same. I am just telling you what my opinion is on what works here.
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