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Domestication Event: Why The Donkey And Not The Zebra?
The State ^ | 10-23-2006 | Eric Hand

Posted on 10/23/2006 12:00:01 PM PDT by blam

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To: ASA Vet
But I think with the ancient pyramids, it was enough of a reduction to contribute to the deification of cats.
81 posted on 10/24/2006 10:18:11 AM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: ASA Vet
But then my senility remembers things that didn't happen and forgets things that did.

I view it as a kind of equilibrium.

82 posted on 10/24/2006 12:35:27 PM PDT by Erasmus (I invited Benoit Mandelbrot to the Shoreline Grill, but he never got there.)
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To: Silly
"Liberal Human Male"

Oxymoron.

83 posted on 10/24/2006 7:11:11 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist
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To: BadAndy
A horse and a zebra are essentially the same animal. If europeans could domesticate one, the africans should have been able to domesticate the other. Jared Diamond's argument that Africa lacked domesticatable species was utter nonsense.

Actually the two are very different. The only similarities is that they look somewhat similar (in the same way a wolf may look like a dog) and that they share a common evolutionary ancestor.

Male Zebra have fighting fangs (yep, you read that right). They are extremely aggresive and are quite adept at biting (a zebra that is trying to fight off other males so it can mate, or one that is fending off a predator, does much more than a horse does ....much more than flashing hooves and neighing ....think flashing hooves and slashing teeth). While such tactics are nothing to a lion they can give a person sufficient body alteration to spawn instant conversations at a thousand Christmas parties and bar outings.

There was a movie called 'Sheena: Queen of the Jungle' (your typical 1980's b-flick about some Tarzan-esque woman who can speak to animals and all that jazz), and in it Sheena was riding a Zebra. Well, it was actually a painted horse. They tried Zebra, but they quickly discovered it was far more prudent to take the time to paint a horse rather than risking losing the arm of their leading lady.

Comparing a zebra and a horse is like comparing a highschool amateur wrestler with a Ukranian combat Sambo master ....they are both grapplers, but they are also several light years apart.

Am I saying Zebra cannot be tamed? No! Any animal can be 'tamed' to some extent. It is just that the comparative risks between taming even the wildest stallion (and there are risks, especially when a fool and a wild horse come together) versus trying to tame your standard Zebra (PARTICULARLY the males) is quite substantial. A bucking bronco and a biting zebra are at two very different pay grades.

84 posted on 10/24/2006 9:41:18 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz

"Am I saying Zebra cannot be tamed? No! Any animal can be 'tamed' to some extent. It is just that the comparative risks between taming even the wildest stallion (and there are risks, especially when a fool and a wild horse come together) versus trying to tame your standard Zebra (PARTICULARLY the males) is quite substantial. A bucking bronco and a biting zebra are at two very different pay grades."

It is true that the zebra and a wild horse have different temperments that may affect domestication. However, keep in mind that the current wild horse was derived from domesticated horses brought over from Europe and escaped. There were no horses in north America at the time of Columbus. The ancestral wild horses may have had temperments closer to the Zebra. I agree it would be very difficult to tame/domesticate full grown wild zebras. It would be much easier to start with captured young or orphaned zebra and raise them away from the herd. You then select for mild temperment over many generations. Theoretically it should be possible to domesticate virtually any wild animal you can get to breed in captivity. Of course some would be more difficult than others and the price of failure more severe with a tiger than a cow. Maybe that's why we drink cow's milk instead of tiger milk.


85 posted on 10/25/2006 7:44:59 AM PDT by BadAndy (You want a magic bullet to fix your problem, but I only have hollowpoints.)
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To: Notwithstanding

Egypt is considered the first nation state, Sumer had the first city states, but they were not united until Saron from Akkad in about 2300 BC or so.


86 posted on 10/25/2006 8:47:08 PM PDT by fatez (Euthanasia - GenX's retirement plan for the boomers)
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To: ASA Vet

Obviously, you forgot to post the link to Taby Tote cat carrier for only $16.95


87 posted on 10/25/2006 9:06:26 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Bernard Marx
The cat domesticated humans

Cats think humans are just warm furnature.

88 posted on 10/25/2006 9:21:13 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: thubb

A suggestion from another Free Republic thread today: lampreys.


89 posted on 10/26/2006 1:28:36 PM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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