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We should leave as soon as possible.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 10/16/2006 11:53:13 PM PDT by MadIvan
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Ping!


2 posted on 10/16/2006 11:53:36 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

It'd be a shame not to have somebody to tell you the permissible curvature of bananas... ;-)


3 posted on 10/16/2006 11:57:46 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: MadIvan
A bump for the inevitable....
4 posted on 10/17/2006 12:00:44 AM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: MadIvan

Realistically,,, do you think it will happen?


5 posted on 10/17/2006 12:06:17 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: MadIvan
I'd be happy to sulk in the periphery.

Anyone want to join me in some peripheral sulking?

6 posted on 10/17/2006 12:07:02 AM PDT by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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To: MadIvan

I hope you are able to!


8 posted on 10/17/2006 12:08:37 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: MadIvan

Unfortunately I see the EU proponents winning in the long term. They just have to sustain the status quo or even surrender small concessions to the sceptics until the British baby boomers retire, and there won't be cross generational institutional strength to fight off further integration. The more M&A activity UK companies are involved with as time passes also makes disentanglement increasingly unlikely.
It will take either an incredibly inspiring political/economic leader(i.e. the opposite of Cameron), or some unforseen tragedy to break the UK out of the downward cycle at this point. The shackles are a little tighter every day.

On the other hand, code enforcement in the UK (and elsewhere) will probably fall apart on a micro level, making the whole regime sublimely ridiculous.


10 posted on 10/17/2006 12:14:15 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: MadIvan
It is funny with you Britons. Lots of empty blahblah since Maggie Thatcher about this issue but no real action.

Personally I think that those nations whose people want to bail out should leave as quickly as they can. It is as contraproductive for the EU as it is for those countries if they stick to a alliance they do not want to be in (the same thing with NATO on the continent btw.). The easiest way to find out if the EU-membership should be prolonged indefinitly is a plebiscite. After the decision of the people any further malignant discussion (no matter if pro or contra) will be obsolete. It could be a demonstration of real democracy if all European nations would do that. This is what you should fight for instead of loosing yourself in whining about the decisions of your very own leaders that were elected by you and your compatriots.

Greetings from good old Europe!

Andreas

13 posted on 10/17/2006 1:09:16 AM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (De omnibus dubitandum.)
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To: MadIvan

GET OUT! FOR THE SAKE OF SANITY GREAT BRITAIN, GET OUT!


14 posted on 10/17/2006 1:45:06 AM PDT by Clemenza (Lets Go Mets!!!)
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Could the Sun have selected a more obscure title?

"2/3 Bussiness bosses urge UK out of EU"


18 posted on 10/17/2006 4:17:40 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: MadIvan
I agree, however, that does raise many "political questions" doesn't it?

While the proposed, dead as a duck for now EU Constitution, provided a method to withdraw, what is the procedure for a country to withdraw from the current band of treaties?

Do you just up one day and say "we quit" and then begin to negotiate new agreements on all the EU stuff you are leaving behind?

Or, like in the US a while back, will Brussels fight to save the union. (Sorry, LOL, I wrote Brussels fight).

Seriously, how does the UK, or Germany for that matter get out of the EU?
19 posted on 10/17/2006 4:27:03 AM PDT by lowbuck (The Blue Card (US Passport). . . Don't leave home without it!)
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Barroso urged Britain to opt to be at the heart of Europe or “sulk in the periphery”

BWAHAHA!

20 posted on 10/17/2006 6:45:45 AM PDT by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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