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Cloning Doubletalk (NAZI-like twisted language of MO referendum)
RealClearPolitics.com ^ | October 16, 2006 | Robert Novak

Posted on 10/15/2006 11:51:18 PM PDT by unspun

WASHINGTON -- A new video available on YouTube marks a late attempt by pro-life forces to avert serious defeat in Missouri Nov. 7, with national implications. Cathy Ruse, speaking for Missourians Against Human Cloning, declares: "Amendment 2 is a fraud. It is an attempt to trick Missourians into approving -- in their Constitution -- human cloning, the right of biotech firms to do human cloning in Missouri -- something Missourians oppose by an overwhelming majority."

But Amendment 2 is identified for many Missouri voters by the language at the beginning of the five-page, 2,000-word ballot initiative: "No person may clone or attempt to clone a human being." That explains why polls have shown a substantial margin of support for the constitutional amendment, which is also backed by key Republican politicians and business interests. It seems to offer the best of all worlds: government support of stem cell research without fear of cloning.

The problem is that the proposal so narrowly defines cloning as to open the door in Missouri to any cloning procedure that takes place outside the womb. If this is approved by a state that historically is a barometer of national trends and is considered a pro-life stronghold, it will be a national model for breaking popular resistance to what the scientists and biotech companies want.

A campaign costing an estimated $20 million has helped build a substantial lead for the amendment's advocates. A September statewide poll by the Republican firm McLaughlin & Associates shows a 59 percent to 31 percent advantage. Democrats appear to have no doubt, favoring it 75 to 22, with only 3 percent undecided. But Republicans are split, 40 percent in support and 45 against, with 15 percent undecided.

Big Republican names -- former Sen. John Danforth, Gov. Matt Blunt and party contributor Sam Fox -- all support the amendment. The $2-billion-endowed Stowers Institute in Kansas City, funded by major Republican benefactors, is spearheading the campaign.

That establishment Republican support for Amendment 2, including threats to remove the institute from the state if the proposal does not pass, has created a difficult situation for first-term GOP Sen. Jim Talent, engaged in a difficult re-election campaign. I reported Talent's "defection from the anti-cloning ranks" in February when he took his name off a Senate bill to ban human cloning on grounds it might hamper acceptable scientific research.

Talent at that time was taking no position on Amendment 2, but he has since come out against it. In a recent debate with the Democratic Senate candidate, State Auditor Claire McCaskill, on NBC's "Meet the Press," Talent said the proposal "would create . . . an unqualified constitutional right to clone the earliest stages of human life. " But he hastened to add he is not against stem cell research.

McCaskill then sought to cast the debate in terms of whether the candidates are for or against the medical miracles that can be achieved through stem cell research. "My faith directs me to heal the sick," she proclaimed, adding that "I come down on the side of hope, hope of cures and supporting science." But she put this in the framework of the constitutional amendment, which, she said, "strictly prohibits human cloning."

The "he said, she said" confrontation on what is in the ballot proposition is enough to confuse voters. Amendment 2 bans only cloning that involves planting an embryo within the womb. It specifically prohibits government from interfering with somatic cell nuclear transfer, which involves replacing the nucleus of a human egg outside the womb -- the cloning procedure used to produce Dolly the sheep.

Not that many Missouri voters are going to plow through an amendment that is half the length of the U.S. Constitution. Unequivocally, the proposal tries to keep politicians from interfering with its approved cloning process: "[N]o state or local government body or official shall eliminate, reduce, deny or withhold any public funds provided or eligible to be provided to a person that lawfully conducts stem cell research or provides stem cell therapies and cures."

This language, contends the YouTube video, "provides biotech firms a blank check for taxpayer dollars to support unethical and unproven research that Missourians oppose." If government-approved cloning can be sold to the barometer, pro-life state of Missouri, it will show up next in other states with major research facilities.

Copyright 2006 Creators Syndicate Page Printed from: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/10/cloning_doubletalk.html at October 16, 2006 - 01:49:15 AM CDT


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: amendment2; cloning; embryonic; humancloning; missouri; moralabsolutes; stemcell; voteno
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Please do what you can, to stop this wolf in sheep's clothing, in the "test lab" of Missouri politics.
1 posted on 10/15/2006 11:51:19 PM PDT by unspun
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YouTube.com piece:


2 posted on 10/15/2006 11:54:07 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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Not even a bump?

I hope this isn't an indication of the level of campaign activism among the nation's FReepers....


3 posted on 10/16/2006 7:41:45 AM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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The mentality at work here ought to scare everybody, pro or con. Imagine having a state constitution amended under the guise of saving lives and the claim that it willll NOT allow cloning.
4 posted on 10/16/2006 7:44:17 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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I wonder who is paying attention.
5 posted on 10/16/2006 9:53:54 AM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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In my area which I cannot claim to be representative of the state I have seen majority of Vote NO signs.

I was called about a month ago for a survey which took at least 15 minutes and I have yet to hear anything about the results. I could NOT get the surveyor to identify who was paying for the survey.

But I was asked if I trusted John Danforth??? Found that a curious question regarding the amendment.
6 posted on 10/16/2006 9:57:43 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: unspun; 1stMarylandRegiment; 47carollann; A Citizen Reporter; A Cyrenian; adrian; AFLoggie; ...
Missouri ping

Low volume ping list

FReepmail me to be on, or off, this list.

7 posted on 10/16/2006 9:59:14 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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But I was asked if I trusted John Danforth??? Found that a curious question regarding the amendment.

Funny. I'm not sure I'd trust him to pick up my trash.

8 posted on 10/16/2006 10:00:01 AM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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I won't repeat my response just in case it was recorded verbatim.


9 posted on 10/16/2006 10:01:13 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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Good people can disagree, BUT, my own take on this is that the DNA from an adult and the DNA from a blastocyst cannot be differentaited.
Either human life begins at conception or it doesn't.

If it does then they way they plan on producing these stem cells is murder.

10 posted on 10/16/2006 10:02:03 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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Amendment 2 is a fraud.

Absolutely, and if the voters of MO fall for this deception, I will be sorely disappointed in them.

11 posted on 10/16/2006 10:02:42 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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I have been paying attention and I am very worried. They started running their ads quite some time ago. The first ones implied that certain cures would not be available to Missourians. Clearly ridiculous. Others imply that cures are out there or just around the corner. Not true.

While they have their ads on with great frequencey, and they are very slick and well done, our side has almost none, and what they do have are amaturish or downright irritating. This campaign is being lost on the television.

It will not be a reliable indicator of where the people are on this issue, but it will be a roadmap to how to fool them.


12 posted on 10/16/2006 10:03:09 AM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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I was asked if I trusted John Danforth??? Found that a curious question regarding the amendment.

Not at all. He is featured prominently in one of the ads. They want to know if people will fall for this because he is a spokesman. Wait until God gets hold of him.

13 posted on 10/16/2006 10:05:13 AM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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I suspect that the great university of the state has big plans for the research and funding and Danforth is well connected with the university.
14 posted on 10/16/2006 10:10:54 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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Danforth is well connected with the university

His brother was Chancellor when I was there.

15 posted on 10/16/2006 10:17:03 AM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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If it does then they way they plan on producing these stem cells is murder.

And thats it in a nutshell. When I got the call last week, I said, "Let me save you some time, Im voting against the amendement, and no amount of spin is going to change that." The lady thanked me for my time and hung up. Look at the sign on northbound 170, Stop Human Cloning, or something along those lines. Its like we stepped into a mengele controlled futuristic time. Vote NO on this amendment!

16 posted on 10/16/2006 10:17:53 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi..)
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To: Bahbah
While they have their ads on with great frequencey, and they are very slick and well done, our side has almost none, and what they do have are amaturish or downright irritating. This campaign is being lost on the television.

The biotech firms have deep pockets, and they stand to gain financially if this passes. They are basically getting a blank check for taxpayer dollars.

17 posted on 10/16/2006 10:18:16 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Bahbah
Ah, well I did not want to give them any publicity, so glad you know who I was referring to.

Personally I have no proof, but I suspect that research funding is being hunted and the only way they could achieve that dollar amount was to attach themselves to the constitution.
18 posted on 10/16/2006 10:20:04 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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I wonder if the turn out to vote against #2 will make the difference Senator Talent needs. There are a lot of Vote NO signs around these parts...


19 posted on 10/16/2006 10:20:27 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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The biology department at UMSL is already planning on a victory. You should see some of the posters they have up in the research building..


20 posted on 10/16/2006 10:20:52 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi..)
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