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Evolution wins out in Michigan science curriculum debate
mlive.com (Michigan News) ^ | 10 October 2006 | TIM MARTIN

Posted on 10/10/2006 10:00:04 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

The State Board of Education on Tuesday approved public school curriculum guidelines that support the teaching of evolution in science classes — but not intelligent design.

Intelligent design instruction could be left for other classes in Michigan schools. But it shouldn't have a home in science class, based on the unanimously adopted guidelines.

"The intent of the board needs to be very clear," said board member John Austin, an Ann Arbor Democrat. "Evolution is not under stress. It is not untested science."

Some science groups and the American Civil Liberties Union had worried that state standards would not be strong enough to prevent the discussion of intelligent design as the course expectations developed over the summer.

Intelligent design's proponents hold that living organisms are so complex they must have been created by a higher force rather than evolving from more primitive forms.

Some want science teachers to teach that Darwin's theory of evolution is not a fact and has gaps.

The curriculum expectations are being developed by the state board as Michigan moves toward stricter high school graduation requirements.

Starting with the class graduating in 2011, Michigan students will have to take four years of math and English, three of science and social studies and one each of physical education and arts. They'll also have to complete some type of online experience.

Two credits of foreign language also will be required, but that requirement will be phased in starting with the class of 2016.


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1 posted on 10/10/2006 10:00:05 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; Shryke; RightWhale; Condorman; ..
Evolution Ping

The List-O-Links
A conservative, pro-evolution science list, now with over 390 names.
See the list's explanation, then FReepmail to be added or dropped.
To assist beginners: But it's "just a theory", Evo-Troll's Toolkit,
and How to argue against a scientific theory.

2 posted on 10/10/2006 10:01:18 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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3 posted on 10/10/2006 10:03:06 AM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: PatrickHenry

Science falsely so called.

There's an ACLU rat in every woodpile, Michigan included.


4 posted on 10/10/2006 10:07:39 AM PDT by RoadTest (He that rebuketh a man, afterward shall find more favor than he that flattereth with the tongue.Prov)
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To: PatrickHenry

Survival of the fittest, baby!

ID just can't cut it.


5 posted on 10/10/2006 10:07:52 AM PDT by orionblamblam (Prayers... give people the feeling they're doing something without making any real effort.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Some science groups and the American Civil Liberties Union had worried that state standards would not be strong enough to prevent the discussion of intelligent design as the course expectations developed over the summer.

Why should the ACLU want to prevent discussion of intelligent design? What liberty are they protecting? The freedom from opposing ideas?

6 posted on 10/10/2006 10:07:57 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: RoadTest

> Science falsely so called.

ID in a nutshell.


7 posted on 10/10/2006 10:08:22 AM PDT by orionblamblam (Prayers... give people the feeling they're doing something without making any real effort.)
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To: Always Right

> Why should the ACLU want to prevent discussion of intelligent design?

I see no evidence that they are doing any such thing.


8 posted on 10/10/2006 10:08:57 AM PDT by orionblamblam (Prayers... give people the feeling they're doing something without making any real effort.)
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What are the evolutionists afraid of? Oh yeah, the fact that evolution is just a theory and that their true agenda will be exposed.


9 posted on 10/10/2006 10:10:41 AM PDT by Justice4Reds
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To: Always Right
Intelligent design should be discussed in school...just not in science class.
10 posted on 10/10/2006 10:11:27 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Every single day provides at least one new reason to hate the mainstream media...)
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To: All
Help for new visitors to the evolution debate
Another service of Darwin Central, the conspiracy that cares.

If you're interested in learning about evolution, visit The List-O-Links.
If you'd like to understand the concept of speciation, visit Micro-evolution, Macro-evolution, and Speciation.
If you're serious about debating this issue, see How to argue against a scientific theory

11 posted on 10/10/2006 10:12:21 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: Justice4Reds

"and that their true agenda will be exposed."

What's the agenda? Don't leave me hangin' like that.


12 posted on 10/10/2006 10:12:56 AM PDT by L98Fiero (Evil is an exact science)
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To: orionblamblam
I see no evidence that they are doing any such thing.

Did you not read what I quoted...

13 posted on 10/10/2006 10:13:18 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Justice4Reds
What are the evolutionists afraid of? Oh yeah, the fact that evolution is just a theory

A theory is the highest goal in science. Read and learn:

Theory: a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses." Addendum: "Theories do not grow up to be laws. Theories explain laws." (Courtesy of VadeRetro.)

Theory: A scientifically testable general principle or body of principles offered to explain observed phenomena. In scientific usage, a theory is distinct from a hypothesis (or conjecture) that is proposed to explain previously observed phenomena. For a hypothesis to rise to the level of theory, it must predict the existence of new phenomena that are subsequently observed. A theory can be overturned if new phenomena are observed that directly contradict the theory. [Source]

When a scientific theory has a long history of being supported by verifiable evidence, it is appropriate to speak about "acceptance" of (not "belief" in) the theory; or we can say that we have "confidence" (not "faith") in the theory. It is the dependence on verifiable data and the capability of testing that distinguish scientific theories from matters of faith.


14 posted on 10/10/2006 10:14:20 AM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: PatrickHenry
"They'll also have to complete some type of online experience"

Uh, I think they've got that one covered already.
15 posted on 10/10/2006 10:14:30 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: PatrickHenry

Good news is always welcome!


16 posted on 10/10/2006 10:15:07 AM PDT by ahayes (My strength is as the strength of ten because my heart is pure.)
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To: Justice4Reds

"Oh yeah, the fact that evolution is just a theory "

Yup. That's why it's called the Theory of Evolution. Maybe you missed that part. You'll get no argument from scientists about it being a theory.


17 posted on 10/10/2006 10:16:02 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: Always Right

> Did you not read what I quoted...

Yes, and there's nothign to indicate that the ACLU is trying to prevent discussion of ID. Just discussion of what is at it's heart dishonest pseudoscience in a *science* class.

Talk about ID all you want in philosophy class or comparative religion class.


18 posted on 10/10/2006 10:16:50 AM PDT by orionblamblam (Prayers... give people the feeling they're doing something without making any real effort.)
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To: Pharmboy

"Intelligent design should be discussed in school...just not in science class"

Just make sure you teach it where it really counts, at home. I only trust school to teach my kid the 3 R's, the rest I'm responsible for.


19 posted on 10/10/2006 10:19:13 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: PatrickHenry

Great news thanks for the ping!


20 posted on 10/10/2006 10:19:43 AM PDT by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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