Posted on 10/07/2006 6:33:48 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
Puh-leeze. You have NO FRIGGIN' CLUE about the economics of oil. But I would expect such from someone who started this by saying oil was from dead dinosaurs.
Theoretical assessment shows that hydrocarbons can form abiotically in rapidly cooling magmatic, volcanic, impact and hydrothermal gases. Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) in the Allan Hills 84001 martian meteorite could represent metastable condensates of impact gases generated by decomposing siderite (FeCO3) rather than martian "bio-fossils" (in collaboration with Everett Shock).
http://geopig.asu.edu/people/M_Zolotov/zolotov-ASU.html
Thanks for that interview link!
Natural Gas, Oil Occur Naturally & Are Not a Limited Fossil Fuel, Says Prominent ScientistThe thing is that microbes can live on petroleum where it is oozing up from deep below only if they can loosen some oxygen. Hydrocarbons are only useful for energy and microbes need an energy supply which can be used for the combustion process. That needs oxygen. Without oxygen, all of the coal in the world would be useless to you.
Thomas Gold
interviewed by Tom Valentine
Microbes have no free oxygen like we have in the atmosphere, so they have to find their oxygen from materials that are buried in the rocks. There the substances that are the most prolific suppliers of oxygen are iron oxide and sulphur oxide.
What we have found for a long time to the puzzlement of many petroleum geologists is that petroleum bearing areas have magnetite, a less oxidized form of iron, and sulphur and sulphides, which are compounds of sulphur, but not oxidized...
Actually, the magnetite grains are very tiny and no such tiny ones occur naturally without biology. They are clearly biological products and there is no question that we found this in huge quantities in Sweden. Probably all the iron mines in Sweden that started the big Swedish iron industry are the same as what we found at our oil drilling. A great deal of the microbic activity found in the crust of the Earth is what we find in mining operations.
Many metal deposits that are totally unexplained, where the textbooks say that they have never been able to find any reason why these metals clustered together, can be explained. The answer as to why they got concentrated is because at depth at high pressures, it is very much easier to make complex molecules that contain metals. Then they come up and disintegrate and leave the metal atoms behind and thats why we find copper and zinc and lead.
As I remember that particular meteorite was thought to have landed in Antarctica some 13,000 years ago, and the PAH were supposedly concentrated in fractures in the meteorite.
Atmospheric dust falling out of the sky in dust particles, in rain, or in snow contains PAH from distant forest fires and other combustion. It is possible that the PAH found in the meteorite fractures came from such terrestrial sources. After all, the meteorite was out in or on a snow field for 13,000 years.
It would be interesting to see the relative concentrations of the various PAH compounds, both the parent compounds and any alkylated PAH homologues. The relative concentrations of these compounds might indicate whether the PAH were consistent with a terrestrial origin.
got too carried away I guess...the feathers were flying that day.
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