"This rule applies to terrorists, creeps, enemies, perps, vermin & criminals - but, in no way, applies to Republicans..."
Put some ice on that, Nancy!
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Right Popeye - the terrorists would never do something like cut stewardesses' throats in order to hijack airplanes and turn them into flying bombs to kill thousands of civilians unless we were mean to them first.
God help us if these morons take over again.
Kerry up in suit and tie saying "This bill permits torture".
I was thinking Nancy, that the north and south should have let their prisoners go during the civil war so that they wouldn't be detained too long and think of all the savings, not having to run those prisons. Everybody would feel so good!
When someone makes unending war against us, their captured combatants get unending detention.
As usual, Pelosi combines vile rhetoric with a waterfall of lies and misstatements. The most important one to keep in mind, amidst all the rhetoric about abusing the constitution is that this bill HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AMERICAN CITIZENS. Despite the best efforts of the dembulbs and their cronies in the judiciary, the constitution does not apply to non-US citizens no present in the US do not.
For the more technically minded, this was posted on the Corner at NRO from a Washington insider just a bit more informed than Comrade Pelosi:
"I do not wish to go on the record but would offer the following technical comment on your question about habeas corpus and the military tribunal bill.
The proposal which passed the House H.R. 6054 categorically has nothing to do with Americans. The Detainee Treatment Act which passed last year is already the law. This legislation was necessary because the United States Supreme Court in Hamdan interpreted the habeas corpus statute (28 USC 2241) as not applying to those detainees at GITMO who had already filed habeas petitions prior to the enactment of the DTA. The purpose of the habeas provisions in the military tribunal bill is to treat all detainees at GITMO similarly. Since the U.S. Supreme Court in Hamdan was interpreting the habeas statute this was easily addressed by Congressional legislation.
The provision itself provides that those GITMO detainees who have had their Combatant Status Review Tribunal determination (required for every detainee) or any final decision by a commission would automatically go to the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. I might mention that this is more liberal than the language in DTA passed last year which requires review only of sentences in excess of 10 years.
This has nothing to do with American citizens or anyone who is voluntarily within the United States. In fact those who have been found to be Americans (e.g. Hamdi and Padilla) cannot even be held at GITMO (see John Yoo's new book where he describes in detail how this policy was arrived at).
The language in the Senate which is being pushed by Senator Kyl, Graham, and others I believe is identical to the House language ...[snip] Nonetheless, it is not substantively different with respect to the issue of Americans from what I have described.
Also, I would note that the subject at hand relates the question of statutory habeas relief and has nothing to do with the Great Writ. The United States Supreme Court has recognized that the U.S. Congress has clear authority to amend statutory habeas corpus procedures.
I hope that this is helpful"
She said this with a straight face?...cough...cough.
The "Golden Rule" for Democrats: treat scumbag murderous terrorists far better than our own troops are treated..... let terrorists at Guantanamo have maximal "rights" while they shower our people with excrement and urine, etc..... show far more respect and concern for terrorists than we (Demagogues) show for either our troops or our Republican adversaries (who we hate and loathe with all our foul, blackened hearts).
I thought all prisoners of war are subject to indefinite detention under the Geneva Conventions, no?
Yes, Nancy,
Show these Islamo-fascist prisoners all the classified information we have on them that compels us to detain them, bring them before a clown court with a high-profile defense lawyer and a low-iq "judge", and let them walk out free to visit their mischief armed with better information than they could ever have hoped to have gotten otherwise.
What a drooling MORON.
How long did we detain German and Japanese POWs during WWII?? Wasn't it for the duration of the war? And they were uniformed combatants.
The vermin at Gitmo are non-uniformed and, according the the Geneva Conventions, are subject to summary execution.
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"It's been five years since 9/11, yet not one person who has been directly responsible for 9/11 has been prosecuted and punished.
The terrorists we have captured should be thankful that we have not applied the standards of the Geneva Convention to them...the Geneva Convention defines the minimum standards for treatment of captured combatents in a declared war...among it's provisions is that enemies captured, not wearing a uniform, may be shot.
No one seems to get that Al Queda is not a signatory to the Geneva Conventions and therefore not subject to it's protections.
Does anyone really expect that if Al Queda captures an American serviceman, they will be constrained by the Geneva Conventions?
When the planes were flown into the towers, did the terrorists extend the Geneva Convention's prohibitions against intentionally targeting civilians?
Nancy Pelosi, you are a traitor, you defend our enemies and seek to give them a safe harbor in our liberal dominated courts, you do not seek the death of those who killed our countryment.
Hey Nancy, Harry, John F'ing Kerry, etc. OUR values don't apply to OUR ENEMIES!
Read the Constitution you MORONS! It's about protecting the USA and deals with OUR citizens.
Geez, these people are beyond retarded.
Since when has Nancy Pelosi believed in "values" ?
The Democratic party--"Siding with America's enemies since 1970"