Missing Giuliani

Daily News Record ^ | 9/25/06

[Hildy]

When he becomes President, all I have to say is SUFFER.

[Smokin' Joe]

Ok. Here is my one issue. I am not voting for anyone with a track record of defying the Bill of Rights. How in the hell can someone credibly take an oath to "protect and defend the Constitution of the United States" when they have already done their utmost to damage it? YMMV.

Idiot? only the ones who don't get it.

[GeorgefromGeorgia]

I am a conservative and I could vote for Rudy. TELL me who do you like for the GOP Nomination? Allen is going to be lucky to return to the Senate. Romney is a moderate. Rudy is liberal on social issues, and perhaps guns, but good on law and order, national security and defense. Also on spending.

Remember, he was Mayor of a very liberal city, and had to get RAT voters. I have no illusions on him being as conservative as I am across the board, but consider his leadership and the alternatives.

[defconw]

He's already taken that oath when he was an associate attorney general under Ronald Reagan. I don't know why you are so afraid of someone taking your gun away from you. Sigh.....

[DungeonMaster]

Not true. Sorry it's just not. I realize this is an uphill fight, but people outside of this forum just don't take the hardline you all do.

I'm trying to think of a good list of social issues and abortion and gay marriage are the only ones that really come to mind. The fact that there is too much welfare destroying too many families should be considered another good social issue. I know how Rudy stands on the first two and I doubt anyone could dream up enough other ones to out weigh them.

[defconw]

Some people are not worth bothering with. I go out and get my facts off neutral sites that keep track of ALL the politicians. These are not my facts and they still won't believe anything that gets posted. They are more comfortable with their delusions.

[spunkets]

"At least a person who can read and write with a fire arm, is not a complete idiot."

Gun ownership is a right. That means it doesn't and must never be licenced. The second Amend forbids it and bozo Giuliani can't even respect the Bill of Rights. He doesn't respect me and I don't respect him.

Besides that, I'm sick of govm't jerks and their supporters telling me I need a licence for everything I do.

[LIConFem]

"Not only did Rudy ruin NYC, ..."

Okay, I'll bite... precisely how did Giuliani "ruin" NYC??

[spunkets]

"When he becomes President, all I have to say is SUFFER."

You've got a real heart there woman.

[t_skoz]

We'll all be suffering if Rudy becomes the nominee. Why on earth would you back one of the WEAKEST and most LIBERAL of anyone considering a run? Do you have any common sense?

[defconw]

Crime, drugs, education.

[defconw]

You are the blind one. Try reading.

[t_skoz]

Guiliani is a loser on property and personal rights issues, how's that smoking ban affecting (what's left of) property rights in NYC? Oh yeah, it spread to all of NYS. Good going.

[Smokin' Joe]

He's already taken that oath when he was an associate attorney general under Ronald Reagan. I don't know why you are so afraid of someone taking your gun away from you. Sigh.....Because there are so many who have stated that as their aim, and who are actively trying to do so.

Some perspective: I recall being able to write a check and send off for a firearm. The postman would deliver it. No FFL, no yellow sheet, no NICS, no BS.

Maybe you have not noticed the changes but I have.

No one was worried then about how many cartridges the magazine would hold.

Now, in some jurisdictions, it is a felony to own a tin box ("high cpacity magazine").

The gun grabbers during the Clinton Regime came really close to banning some of my favorite things, and the next pass they will not be as sloppy, nor will the act sunset all by its lonesome.

I want a president who is downright hostile to attempts to further infringe the RKBA, not one who is amenable to that.

[carton253]

Then let them have them. We are a long way from having to decide either for or against Rudy. He hasn't even declared yet. I like Rudy - always have. But, whether I would vote for him or not depends on who else is running and their records and positions.

[defconw]

I am plenty worried about it. I don't want some jerk off terrorist being able to do the same thing. Times have changed. You are so hung up on guns that I am actually worried about you.

[t_skoz]

How about the now state-wide smoking ban and some of his overly heavy-handed approaches to crime? Felony convictions for 1st time marijuana and graffiti offenses? NYC has become a gentrified hipster version of Disney Land.

[carton253]

Why are you getting so worked up. I don't even think Guiliani is a candidate for president. Sheesh!

[defconw]

Works for me, but every time someone posts a Giuliani article, here they all come. He is a Republican like it or not. I will not stand by and allow the Republicans to act like the Democrats and throw those out whom we only agree with 90 percent of the time, ala Joe Lieberman.

[t_skoz]

your lack of concern about 2nd Amendment issues is startling.