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New York City’s Reservists Are Asked to Return Iraq Pay
New York Times ^ | 23 Sep 2006 | Andy Newman

Posted on 09/24/2006 8:27:44 PM PDT by GinJax

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To: FreedomCalls

Beg pardon,,,i forgot, imho,,,after all,,,we always get
best deal possible,,,imho,,,thanks !


21 posted on 09/24/2006 10:18:00 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: CWOJackson

Good point. I agree. The troops should be able to opt to pay their miliary pay scale back to the city.


22 posted on 09/24/2006 10:46:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: DoughtyOne
The troops should be able to opt to pay their miliary pay scale back to the city.

They already have that option. The point of contention is that the city wants to include BAS/BAQ in calculating their military pay scale.

23 posted on 09/24/2006 10:57:44 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Beg pardon,,,i forgot, imho,,,after all,,,we always get best deal possible,,,imho,,,thanks !

The alternative was to forego keeping their police benefits while they were deployed. Their choice. It still seems like a good deal to me. Keep your benefits and whichever salary was higher. You can even stick it into a six-month CD and get interest off of it before paying the excess back.

But to claim, "hey, sorry, I spent it all already, you can't have back what we agreed to as I want to keep both salaries" seems not right.

24 posted on 09/24/2006 11:02:07 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

Does the city pay for their officer's homes in the U.S.? If not then how the hell can they claim that housing is part of the pay for troops on active duty? It's more of a necessity than a perk?

Military life isn't like life in the private sector. Those troops are on duty 24/7. Instead of working a 40 hour week, they are on call at a moments notice.

Tell you what, if the city wants to buy each officer a new home of their choice in the U.S. upon return, perhaps I'd ammend my reponse.


25 posted on 09/24/2006 11:05:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: GinJax

OUTRAGEOUS!


26 posted on 09/24/2006 11:42:27 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I'm guessing that some medical personnel on the NYC payroll, if they had taxfree war zone pay, could bring in over $200,000 if they put in a long tour, which from what I've read, all medical personnel do. Probably also had senior NCO's and NG CO's who were also senior NYPD/MTA brass who were called up, especially those in MP units (from what I know of first hand from LEO's in the NJ NG), were assigned long tours of duty.

This is a good deal for everyone who signed up, as long as their family members with the checkbooks and credit cards in NY had some financial sense. Sounds like some didn't.


27 posted on 09/25/2006 12:38:47 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: bannie
I don't see what the injustice is here. The taxpayers of New York were paying full salaries and benefits to these reservists, so the notion that the reservists should basically get paid twice seems ridiculous.

I have a similar arrangement with my company for jury duty. The companies gives up to ten days of paid "leave" for its employees in a year if they get called up for jury duty. As part of this arrangement, we must give our jury duty reimbursement checks to the company in return.

28 posted on 09/25/2006 4:00:41 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child

The problem is this (basically an accounting error) :

The city is demanding that the veterans repay their gross salaries, even though they never saw about a third of the money, which went for taxes and other deductions.


29 posted on 09/25/2006 4:03:12 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: ancient_geezer
Yet another job for the FairTax!
30 posted on 09/25/2006 4:17:57 AM PDT by esarlls3
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To: durasell

There's no other way to do it properly, since gross pay is the "bottom line" number in all official aspects. And the income tax may be refunded anyway if a reservist has to write a check to his employer for it. If you pay $10,000 in taxes on $50,000 in income and then have to write a check for $50,000 to reimburse your employer, I suspect the entire $50,000 would be fully deductible on next year's return anyway.


31 posted on 09/25/2006 4:26:23 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child

It seems as if there should be an easier way to do it.


32 posted on 09/25/2006 5:01:18 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

Maybe so. But every financial transaction of this kind has to be backed by official documentation -- and "net pay" is not an official measure of income under any rules/regulations. Otherwise, the reservist who fills out a W-4 form with 4 exemptions (and therefore has less money in taxes taken out of his paycheck) will have to pay back less than the guy who filed his W-4 form with only 2 exemptions -- even if they both earned the same gross income.


33 posted on 09/25/2006 6:26:35 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child

They are to be charged for money they don't receive: They are to be charged for BEFORE tax monies when they have received AFTER tax monies.


34 posted on 09/25/2006 5:28:51 PM PDT by bannie (HILLARY: Not all perversions are sexual.)
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To: GinJax
As opposed to another company (sorry, I don't recall the name but there was a thread on it here) that paid the family of a guard/reservist, the difference between his military pay( less) and his job pay so the familiy suffered no loss during his deployment.

Bloomberg SUCKS!

35 posted on 09/25/2006 5:39:23 PM PDT by AFreeBird (If American "cowboy diplomacy" did not exist, it would be necessary to invent it.)
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