Airport Check-in: Fare refusals in Minnesota(based on Islam)

USAToday | 09/18/06 | Roger Yu

[AFreeBird]

So given their rational, the moos-slum cabbie could deny women who are not attired head to toe in a burka. But then would she even be allowed to speak to the male cabbie to tell him where to take her?

What if she were carrying a BLT sandwich?

[BlessedBeGod]

...but in reality having a bunch of poofters prancing around your rental property is likely more profitable for you. They won't drink beer and start wrestling to impress the girls...smashing furniture in the process. They'll probably just drink wine, quietly talk about new fashions, and then return your rental home in perfectly clean condition after a week or two. I wouldn't sweat it too much.

Uh, not in my experience. The apartment building that I used to live in was set on fire by a gay guy who was upset after a fight with his live-in lover. He told the fire chief that he meant to burn the building down and kill everyone in it as revenge against his boyfriend.

[rogue yam]

I see we've been in the same city.

Well, you knew I wasn't talking about Boston or else I'd have included "the gay prostitute's boozed-up Congressman boyfriend".

[rogue yam]

Uh, not in my experience.

There is nothing more vicious than a queen. Nothing. Others might on average have more capability or opportunity, but none has more intense desire.

[codercpc]

I agree, too a point, 1) If the pharmacist owns his own business, or 2) the pharmacist let's his employer know of his beliefs, and they still agree to hire him, then it is a private business decision. Same for the cabbies, if it is an independently owned and operated, or if the owner agrees (before hiring) that the driver will refuse fairs, then it is a private business decision.

I am unsure of what you mean by "public" funds, if you mean hospital run pharmacies, then I would agree with you, but if you mean just a pharmacy that agrees to accept Medicare/Medicaid, then there are already contract decisions in place, and meds that neither of them pay for, so I don't think that this should come into it, especially if the pharmacy does have other employees that will dispense without the moral conflict.

I worked for a clinic for years, and if I found out they performed abortions, I would either refuse to be any part of them (from scheduling, to billing, to support staff duties), if that then put restrictions on my employment, I would have had to make the decision to quit. Thankfully, my clinic had no part of that, so I never had to make that decision. I do not think anyone should be guaranteed a job with their moral conflicts, but if the owners ok'd it, I have no problem with it. Be it pharmacists, abortion, or in this case liquor to a Muslim.

[CaptainK]

I think I would accidentally spill my wine onto the rug of the taxi as I was being refused a ride.
Oops.

[little jeremiah]

:-/

And the names they call each other... we can't say them or we're talking hate speech.

[sit-rep]

Pikamax, posting a link is super easy! You pasting in the URL is the hard part, and ya gave us that!!...here is all ya have to do.

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And if you want to go one further, and a "New Window" clause to the anchor tag as in so...

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Notice below the link opend a new window...

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Now, try it!! Just remember, the only spaces in the line of code is between the "a" and "href". There are no spaces before and after the braces. And, if you use the "target=new" element, a space is required between the closing quote of the URL and target=new. I show spaces so the code does not become active for display purposes...

Don't let yer mind make it harder than it actually is!!

[sit-rep]

Heck, it don't work... Well it works every where else on the web, maybe Moderator can shed some light on this...

Hey Mod... Why does the target=new not let you out of FR's domain??

[Wuli]

"Same for the cabbies, if it is an independently owned and operated, or if the owner agrees (before hiring) that the driver will refuse fairs, then it is a private business decision."

The public license aspect of cab companies in most locations can, legally, place conditions on the license because, though operated by private persons, cabs are considered a "public conveyance" like a bus, a train, a plane, etc. Thus, again, I do not think operators of such "public conveyances" can enforce their own religious conditions on "the public"; whether they be a cab driver or an airline company; unless they operate soley in the manner of a "charter" outfit and as such, are incorporated to provide charter services for only a designated segment of the public.

For instance, in New York/New Jersey there are such bus companies that only operate as chartered buses, serving only daily commuters from the orthodox Jewish community, so that the men can be segregated from the women on the bus (with curtains as well as separte seating sections). They do not offer services "to the public", only to people who charter their services on the understanding the nature of their service. The Orthodox Jewish community sought the establishment of these daily charter bus companies because public buses did not have to conform to their religious restrictions. Conversely, such a bus company, if owned by an Orthodox Jewish person would not be permitted to operate on a general public bus service license and demand its non-Jewish customers segregate themselves between the men and the women. It could make those demands only on non-Jewish persons who wished to take their chartered services, who were told the nature of those services when they subscribed to them. Thus, in the New York counties north of New York City, you will see the Orthodox Jewish commuters and the general public being picked up (most often) by separate bus lines.

[Cindy]

DANIEL PIPES.org (NEW YORK SUN): "DON'T BRING THAT BOOZE INFO MY TAXI" (October 10, 2006)

DANIEL PIPES.org - Weblog: "MORE ON THOSE MINNESOTA TAXI DRIVERS" (October 10, 2006)

[gakrak]

Right, and I would make sure that I would bypass them to the first no muzzi cab available. Amen.

[Razz Barry]

Have they said how soon the sandwich shops will have to stop serving ham sandwiches?