Posted on 09/18/2006 6:15:53 AM PDT by conservativecorner
Do illegal immigrants depress wages for American workers? You better believe it. Just in case you need convincing, here's a little proof.
"Since the mid-1990s, Stillmore has grown dependent on the paychecks of Mexican workers who originally came for seasonal farm labor, picking the area's famous Vidalia onions. Many then took year-round jobs at the Crider plant, with a workforce of about 900.
Crider President David Purtle said the agents began inspecting the company's employment records in May. They found 700 suspected illegal immigrants, and supervisors handed out letters over the summer ordering them to prove they came to the U.S. legally or be fired. Only about 100 kept their jobs.
...The poultry plant has limped along with half its normal workforce. Crider increased its starting wages by $1 an hour to help recruit new workers.
Stacie Bell, 23, started work canning chicken at Crider a week ago. She said the pay, $7.75 an hour, led her to leave her $5.60-an-hour job as a Wal-Mart cashier in nearby Statesboro."
I guess those $6.75 hour jobs picking onions were one of the, "jobs Americans won't do," until, shabizz shabam, they raised the pay by a dollar an hour and what do you know, here comes Stacie Bell and other people like her to work.
What does that tell you? That there is no such thing as a, "job Americans won't do." There are only jobs Americans won't do because illegal aliens have depressed the wages so much that Americans don't think it's worth their time to do the job.
Hat tip to Polipundit for the story.
ok, there you go. the jobs americans won't do is a farce. Pay them decent wage and Americans will come do your job for you...
Fine, when are you CC going to start your own business. Using your logic I say that the mandated wage should be $30 an hour. You will have no shortage of workers, what you will have is a shortage of customers for your product since to satisfy your need to be right wing politically correct you price yourself out of the market.
To the OBL, that is the beauty of it. Not only do you need pay the illegals a pittance, you can pay your American workers less as well.
And how much do you pay your American workers?
BTW, you are probably an employee and have never been an employer, so now wonder your democrat party like rheotric.
I suppose you missed the part about the employer raising his wage scale in order to attract enough workers, with no direct government mandate? If he can't support his payscale, then he'll have to reduce workforce.
Ridculing the poster without making truly logical arguments doesn't work well, FRiend.
The wage/price in this case is not driven by mandate. Instead, it is driven by labor availability also known as supply, which how it should be, no?
The issue here, although not clearly stated, is that with the HUGE influx of poor foreigners there is an unlimited supply of CHEAP labor, which has cleary affected the labor market in certain sectors.
Ridculing the poster without making truly logical arguments doesn't work well, FRiend.
Uh, the govt. mandate was the threat of arresting his current workers for the crime of working in a chicken plant processing chicken breasts and legs for Americans backyard bbq's.
LOL! If you knew one damn thing about economics, which you very obviously don't, you would know that the market will set the rate and not some nonsense like you posted. Have you ever heard of a "free market economy"?
8% reduction in non-defense spending
8% reduction in federal employees' wages, benefits, and pensions
8% reduction in the number of federal employees
8% reduction in pay, benefits, and pensions to Congress, the courts, and the post office
I mean why not, it's only 8% right?
"Fine, when are you CC going to start your own business. Using your logic I say that the mandated wage should be $30 an hour. "
I don't think anyone was talking about a mandated high wage. They were talking about making sure that a company can't cut corners and cut costs by breaking the law. I fully support the idea that a company must obey American law and that if it can't it doesnt' deserve to be in bussiness. I think the evidence that illegals lower the standard of living for the bottom rung of American workers is tremendous. And it isn't like things are cheaper for the rest of us because we pay a little less of onions. We end up giving back those savings many times over through having to pay for hospitals for illegals with no health insurance, paying to educate illegal children, and through a hundred different social services we give to criminals.
How did your Independence Day celebration go?
Ok got it, an influx of oil depressing the price of petroleum products good, an influx of hard working labor keeping costs low for other products bad.
To be intellectually honest you would be against all oil imports, which would mean instant $5 a gallon gasoline, but at least you would be intellectually honest.
Left off the all-important 8% reduction in tax rates.
Thank you for explaining a "free market economy" to Dane.
They are ILLEGAL ALIENS Dane. What part of "illegal" don't you understand?
"If he can't support his payscale, then he'll have to reduce workforce."
He will. Before long those higher wage jobs that can not be economically justified will become automated.
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