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Hate-filled VampireFreaks website linked to several violent crimes
Canada.com ^ | 9-15-06 | Ian MacLeod

Posted on 09/16/2006 11:34:05 AM PDT by CapnBarbosa

MONTREAL - A website that revels in pain, blood, death and darkness is the common link between several homicides, rapes, a church arson and now the Dawson College rampage.

Gunman Kimveer Gill blogged at VampireFreaks.com, a popular online refuge where the Goth sub-culture shares morbid poetry, death metal music, details of violent sex and black musings rooted in social alienation and personal despair.

Gill, 25, referred to himself in one seething online post as ''the Angel of Death.''

On Wednesday, armed with an assault rifle, he went on a murderous rampage at Dawson College in Montreal, killing one woman and injuring 19, before killing himself.

The New York-based Web site, catering to 600,000 mostly teenage ''cybergoths,'' is also associated with a recent string

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: crime; cyber; goth; murder; vampirefreaks
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I would have loved to have had a camera on the guy that met the policeman in the graveyard-- just to see the look on his face. I bet he even had his little cape on...
1 posted on 09/16/2006 11:34:06 AM PDT by CapnBarbosa
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To: CapnBarbosa

Oh there they go again twidget, blaming us peaceful vampiras.

2 posted on 09/16/2006 11:51:39 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: CapnBarbosa

I visited the vampire site the day after the shootings. Most of the "conversations" are lame and boring. The grotesque icons the members choose for themselves and their signature lines are probably the most dramatic part of the forum. I did see a few members who seem to be older, early thirties, maybe, and that concerned me because they are interacting with those who are much younger. The "poetry" there is very black. Most of the kids who hang out at those sites don't seem to think they have much of a future, although there were signs of intelligence here and there.


3 posted on 09/16/2006 11:52:53 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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The site is a gathering place where Goths can find a sense of community to share their despair about mainstream life.

Democrats have a similar site... http://www.democraticunderground.com/

4 posted on 09/16/2006 11:53:37 AM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: CapnBarbosa

Before the advent of the internet, most freaky gothy teens grew out of their goth phase into fairly normal, well-adjusted adults. After the internet, the repsonsibility of adulthood doesn't force the goth flock to break up; they're always there, right online, reveling in their gothiness and "woe is me, screw the world" attitude. Instead of learning to deal with the real world as a normal person, they just throw themselves deeper in their little online world and community.


5 posted on 09/16/2006 11:57:47 AM PDT by Mark-in-Kentucky
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To: operation clinton cleanup
Democrats have a similar site... http://www.democraticunderground.com/

LOL! Good one.

6 posted on 09/16/2006 12:00:06 PM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: WKB; little jeremiah; RunningWolf; DaveLoneRanger

Interesting insight to a very dangerous subculture. You need to read the whole article, which isn't long, to see pretty much what's going on.


7 posted on 09/16/2006 12:00:17 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: sageb1
Most of the kids who hang out at those sites don't seem to think they have much of a future, although there were signs of intelligence here and there.

What a dreadful job their parents (or whoever raised them) have done, when a teenager in the United States of America thinks he doesn't have anything to live for. Of course, one of parent's main responsibilities these days is to protect their kids from our sexualized, drug-filled, irresponsible culture. I realize a lot of kids don't get that protection.

8 posted on 09/16/2006 12:04:03 PM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: Mark-in-Kentucky
Before the advent of the internet, most freaky gothy teens grew out of their goth phase into fairly normal, well-adjusted adults. After the internet, the repsonsibility of adulthood doesn't force the goth flock to break up...

I know of a married couple that falls into this category. They are raising 3 little children like this. Each of them is nearing 30 and together they have entered an adult world of responsibility, but they never really grow up.
9 posted on 09/16/2006 12:10:31 PM PDT by Route66 (America's Main Street)
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To: Mark-in-Kentucky
You haven't been to a gaming convention ever, have you?

Actually, 99.9 percent of the people (adults and teens) partaking of this particular subculture are perfectly harmless. To each his own...

10 posted on 09/16/2006 12:15:20 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: humblegunner

"misguided souls" ping


11 posted on 09/16/2006 12:31:58 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Enterprise

How typical. Moon-bats in every flavor.


12 posted on 09/16/2006 12:34:43 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Gun owners have illustrated rights are individual and can be protected by individuals.)
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To: CapnBarbosa
We, for the most part, are totally normal people.

Okey...(stepping toward the door, back to wall)...dokey...

13 posted on 09/16/2006 12:46:29 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: CapnBarbosa

Around here we call them goth-hicks - small town kids who wear black, listen to mostly screaming music, and have a few silver posts in their face somewhere. They do it for the attention and noteriety. Once in a while I do see an older one that gives me pause for concern.


14 posted on 09/16/2006 12:54:00 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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They are the antithesis to the bright-eyed, though mostly vacant, Abercrombie Zombies.


15 posted on 09/16/2006 12:55:48 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: CapnBarbosa

Aw, geez. Where are our 1337 hax0rz when we need them? ><


16 posted on 09/16/2006 1:02:21 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: sageb1

Retarded emo kids living in their parents' basement FOR THE LOSE!


17 posted on 09/16/2006 1:03:18 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: CapnBarbosa

Our #3 son, who is a HUGH World of Warcraft player said that those folks describe Vampirefreaks as the sewer of the Internet.


18 posted on 09/16/2006 3:07:32 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: American Quilter

I think it's because kids these days spend an inordinate amount of time with their peers. It's like the media echo chamber; they only believe what they hear most often. If they get a overdose of cynicism from their peers and their teenage culture, the ones who are susceptible to influence can just get lost in that world.


19 posted on 09/16/2006 3:10:21 PM PDT by SuziQ
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Aw, geez. Where are our 1337 hax0rz when we need them? ><

They're busy on WOW. ;o)

20 posted on 09/16/2006 3:11:13 PM PDT by SuziQ
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