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Bush's CIA Critic Claim Exposed as Untrue
Newsmax.com ^ | 9/13/06 | Ron Kessler (Washington Wire)

Posted on 09/13/2006 7:52:05 AM PDT by harpu

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To: harpu

This is exactly the same thing that happened with Joe Wilson....go on 60 minutes...tell the exact OPPOSITE of what you said on record to the CIA....let the press have a field day with it...then be proved wrong. Of course, 60 minutes won't have an interview to correct the falsehoods...
These people continue to play by the same playbook because they think it works...let's hope it doesn't


41 posted on 09/13/2006 1:47:50 PM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: Howlin
Melanie Sloan said on October 1st 2003, then updated on January 21st 2005 that Wilson had been sent by the CIA, now she's trying to twist it again and say it was VP Cheney that sent him.

http://www.usatoday.com/community/chat_03/2003-10-01-sloan.htm

By the looks of this, this commie has been on his legal council team right from the start of "The Big Lie".

My gut tells me this is all a plot to cover up the US portion of the 'OFF' scandal and I think at the end of the day we'll find out all these VIPS, Joe Wilson, Valerie Plame and many others were all involved and reaping the benefits from it.
42 posted on 09/13/2006 2:07:21 PM PDT by AmeriBrit ( Squashing Clinton's Lies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuH1xwLUnbg)
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To: ravingnutter; Howlin; Shermy; the Real fifi
Thanks for the pings! If you go to http://intelligence.senate.gov/"http://intelligence.senate.gov, open the pdf file titled "Postwar Findings about Iraq's WMD Programs and Links to Terrorism and How they Compare with Prewar Assessments", and skip down to pdf pages 143-147, there are some details on conflict between what Drumheller and Tenet told the SSCI. I don't remember if Drumheller is mentioned by name--think he's described as the "CIA Europe chief" or something like that--but it seems to be referring to him.

Regarding the quote identifying VIPS as the source of the leak to IAEA about the Niger forgeries, I tried to substantiate that quote (originally posted on May 17, 2003 by IslamOnline's Hwaa Irfan at http://www.islamonline.net/English/In_Depth/Iraq/2003/03/article05.SHTML) when I was putting together my "Wilsongate" post (where I considered a similar scenario in the "Means" section in Post #2 under "Phase 2: Planting the forgery" and in the "Opportunity" section in Post #3 under "4. Wilson’s alibi(s)"). My recollection is that I did not include that quote because I was unable to determine the source of the information (it seemed like it may have been an inference from previously-published articles rather than based on a direct quotation of a source with firsthand knowledge) or find other corroborating details. I do suspect VIPS (possibly in conjunction with CIA personnel in Europe) was involved in the leak but I wouldn't rest the case on that quote.

43 posted on 09/13/2006 2:41:47 PM PDT by Fedora
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44 posted on 09/13/2006 2:54:50 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Fedora

Thanks, The Source of the forgeries and why Wilson spoke of seeing them when he couldn't have is one of the remaining mysteries, isn't it, fedora? Like you I've a number of good ideas but no proof.


45 posted on 09/13/2006 3:15:49 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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The Source of the forgeries and why Wilson spoke of seeing them when he couldn't have is one of the remaining mysteries, isn't it, fedora?

Yes, the new SSCI report says on pdf p. 56 that the FBI is still investigating the origin of the forgeries. Another unresolved question is who first advised the IAEA of the forgeries--my summary of the various discrepancies surrounding this issue:

Wilsongate: Motive, Means, and Opportunity

On February 4, the day before Powell’s UN speech, someone briefed Baute on the Niger forgeries and provided him with copies. Who provided the briefing and forgeries to him and where they did so have been reportedly differently by different sources. According to Baute’s account as reported by Seymour Hersh, he was briefed by the US mission in Austria while aboard a plane en route from IAEA headquarters in Vienna to UN headquarters in New York, and upon reaching New York he was provided with copies of the documents by the US.174 What the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence’s report says regarding this is censored at a key point, reading, “On February 4, 2003, the U.S. Government passed electronic copies of the Iraq-Niger documents to [3/4 line deleted] the IAEA. Because the Director of the IAEA’s INVO [Iraq Nuclear Verification Office] was in New York at the time, the U.S. Government also provided the documents to him in New York.”175 So far this seems consistent enough. But slightly at variance with these accounts is a July 18, 2003 article by Walter Pincus and Dana Priest which depicts the briefing occurring in Vienna rather than on the plane from Vienna: “On Feb. 4, the U.N. inspectors' Iraq team was called to the U.S. mission in Vienna and verbally briefed on the contents of the documents. A day later, they received copies, according to officials familiar with the inspectors' work.” A couple weeks earlier, Pincus and Richard Leiby had reported that the copies of the forgeries the inspectors received came from the CIA: “In early February, the CIA received a translation of the Niger documents and in early March, copies of the documents, which it turned over to the International Atomic Energy Agency.”176 A seemingly different account is found in a March 8, 2003 article by Ian Traynor, stating that Britain provided the documents to the IAEA in Vienna: “British officials named the state of Niger as the source of the uranium and passed their evidence to the UN nuclear watchdog, the international atomic energy agency, in Vienna.” Hans Blix curiously stated as reported in an April 22, 2003 article by Sally Bolton, “The CIA say they got a copy of the document from the UK.”177 This is contradicted by a September 2003 British Parliamentary investigation which states, “In February 2003 the International Atomic Energy Authority (IAEA) received from a third party (not the UK) documents that the party had acquired in the autumn of 2002 and which purported to be evidence of Iraq’s attempts to obtain uranium from Niger. In March 2003 the IAEA identified some of the documents it had received as forgeries and called into question the authenticity of the others.” Britain’s July 2004 Butler Report similarly though somewhat more vaguely states: “it was not until early 2003 that the British Government became aware that the US (and other states) had received from a journalistic source a number of documents alleged to cover the Iraqi procurement of uranium from Niger. Those documents were passed to the IAEA. . .”178

46 posted on 09/13/2006 4:06:34 PM PDT by Fedora
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You are still the best researcher on the planet, fedora.


47 posted on 09/13/2006 4:12:19 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: rwa265

I remember Erik Mink when he was lead propagandist for the pinko rag Riverfront Times - the paper that wouldn't have any circulation at all if college students didn't need the free paper to serve as coasters for their beer bottles.


48 posted on 09/13/2006 9:31:59 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the ping! :-)


49 posted on 09/14/2006 12:16:28 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: harpu

later read


50 posted on 09/14/2006 12:38:38 PM PDT by Mo1 (Think about it .. A Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be 2 seats away from being President)
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And the fact is that his wife's career at CIA has been destroyed; she's never going to be Rome Station Chief.

...repeated here in case you didn't come across this. What makes the reporter think she was lined up to get the position in the first place?

51 posted on 09/14/2006 5:35:03 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: piasa

LOLOL! So very true, piasa.


52 posted on 09/14/2006 9:36:08 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: harpu

A bump since Tyler Drumheller’s involved in Hillary Clinton’s current private email server / Benghazi scandal.


53 posted on 06/17/2015 3:50:07 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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Add to your Drumheller list that he is Sid Blumenthal’s source feeding info to Hillary in the disasterous Libyan arab spring...


54 posted on 10/09/2015 5:09:59 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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