Sorta like this guy...right?
Posted on 09/07/2006 7:33:04 AM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99
MACON, Ga.
President Bush's once-solid relationship with Southern women is on the rocks. "I think history will show him to be the worst president since Ulysses S. Grant," said Barbara Knight, a self-described Republican since birth and the mother of three. "He's been an embarrassment." In the heart of Dixie, comparisons to Grant, a symbol of the Union, is the worst sort of insult, especially from a Macon woman who voted for Bush in 2000 but turned away in 2004.
In recent years, Southern women have been some of Bush's biggest fans, defying the traditional gender gap in which women have preferred Democrats to Republicans. Bush secured a second term due in large part to support from 54 percent of Southern female voters while women nationally favored Democrat John Kerry, 51-48 percent.
"In 2004, you saw an utter collapse of the gender gap in the South," said Karen Kaufmann, a professor of government at the University of Maryland who has studied women's voting patterns. White Southern women liked Bush because "he spoke their religion and he spoke their values."
Now, anger over the Iraq war and frustration with the country's direction have taken a toll on the president's popularity and stirred dissatisfaction with the Republican-held Congress.
Republicans on the ballot this November have reason to worry. A recent Associated Press-Ipsos poll found that three out of five Southern women surveyed said they planned to vote for a Democrat in the midterm elections. With control of the Senate and House in the balance, such a seismic shift could have dire consequences for the GOP.
Democrats need to gain 15 seats in the House and six in the Senate to seize control.
In a sign of how crucial races in the South will be to the GOP national strategy, Bush was traveling to Georgia on Thursday to help former Rep. Max Burns raise money in his bid to unseat Democratic Rep. John Barrow. The president also will give a speech in Atlanta.
Knight lives in another congressional district considered competitive. Republicans hope to oust Democratic Rep. Jim Marshall, whose district was redrawn by the GOP-controlled Georgia Legislature to make it more conservative.
Voters like Knight could prove to be spoilers. The 66-year-old real estate agent doesn't particularly like Marshall, a hawkish Democrat and former Army Ranger, but she said she'll vote for him because she likes his conservative Republican opponent, former Rep. Mac Collins, even less.
"I'm going to go for the moderate, and these days that tends to be Democrats," Knight said.
Sandy Rubin, a high school teacher in Macon, voted for Bush and said she's also likely to vote for Marshall. Rubin said the GOP's focus on issues that appeal to social conservatives, such as gay marriage and abortion, have turned her off.
"I care about job security and education. The things I hear the Republicans emphasizing in their campaigns are not things that affect me or my family," said the 39-year-old mother of two.
The movement of some Southern women away from the Republican Party tracks with national poll results showing that women have become more disillusioned with the war and were more likely than men to list the conflict as the important issue facing the country.
Nationally, the AP-Ipsos poll found that only 28 percent of women approve of Bush's handling of the war. Bush did better in the South, but only slightly _ just 32 percent of women in the region said they approve of his handling of the war.
"I never did understand why we went into Iraq and didn't instead clean up the mess in Afghanistan first," Knight said.
Teresa Cranford, 39, also of Macon, said her support for Bush was lukewarm in 2004, but she ultimately voted for him so he could finish the job in Iraq. As the death toll has risen, so has her discomfort.
"I'm a mother and that makes me think differently about it," Cranford said.
Lynn Hamilton, 44, said she still supports Bush even though her backing for the ongoing war has waned.
"As a mother you worry, 'Am I going to lose my baby boy?'" said the Gray, Ga., resident. "A mother's view about war is often going to be a lot different than dad's is."
Neither Cranford nor Hamilton has decided how they plan to vote in the midterm elections, although neither ruled out voting for a Democrat.
"I'm not a straight party-line Republican anymore," Cranford said.
Still, some Southern women remain stalwart supporters of the president and the Republican Party. At a watermelon festival in Chickamauga, in the mountains of northwest Georgia, substitute teacher Clydeen Tomanio said she remains committed to the party she's called home for 43 years.
"There are some people, and I'm one of them, that believe George Bush was placed where he is by the Lord," Tomanio said. "I don't care how he governs, I will support him. I'm a Republican through and through."
This was posted earlier.
BS
damn, I hate that. I looked too.
I say all these polls and feel-good electorate stories point to one inescapable conclusion: unmarried women should not be allowed to vote.
Actually, Grant wasn't a bad president. He was just a bad reader of character and had greedy market manipulators influence friends and members of his family which led to corruption within his administration. It didn't touch him personally, but hurt the way his administration has been viewed. It's too bad.
Wow, it's really easy to make up some news and put a biased headline on it.
A pure puff piece if there ever was one. This just in MSM. There will still be an election. The voters will still decide the outcome. All your puff pieces in the world won't matter one iota.
It's not propaganda. As a hard right-wing (male) conservative, I've voted consistently for Republicans since 1960. I didn't vote for ANYBODY in 1992, 1996 and 2004 because far as I was concerned, all the choices sucked.
Right now though, I have to agree that this president will be remembered as one of the worst we've ever had. I thought his old man was a terrible president (for a Republican) but I think Junior is even worse.
I know, I know, all you blind Bushbots are now gonna accuse me of being a Dummicrat plant but you're wrong as hell.
Propoganda...but I think we'll see some real "movement" after Monday's ABC documentary...will be devastating to the Clinton administration and its' ineptness regarding WOT.
Daily DNC talking point.
ALL: BTW IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN POST THE DAILY DNC PARTY FAX ON THE SITE? IT WOULD BE GOOD REFERENCE MATERIAL SO WE CAN ID THE REPORTERS WHO ARE BEING LAZY.
I think Knight is just another uninformed Sheeple.......
Sorta like this guy...right?
Hillary could be considered a "Republican since birth" too, you know.
Looks like a bunch of DNC talking points.
The headline, War Turns Southern Women Away from GOP, is deliberately meant to suggest that Southern women are turn against Bush on some large scale. However, the text of the article actually points out the OPPOSITE with this sole reference to any data:
Nationally, the AP-Ipsos poll found that only 28 percent of women approve of Bush's handling of the war. Bush did better in the South, but only slightly _ just 32 percent of women in the region said they approve of his handling of the war.
So, the author digs up two women voting for a democrat and then try to spin the whole thing as the South is falling when in fact the stats he himself uses disprove that! Sheesh!
If you are not part of the solution...
... then you're part of the precipitate.
*ducks*
Stories like this are insignicant, imho. Anecdotes without context are useless. As an historian, it is my opinion that George Bush is the best president of my lifetime (last 65 years).
Worse than Carter?
The article says that in 2004 Bush increased his share of the vote among Southern women to 54% (which is phenomenal, considering that black women are over 30% of the female vote in several Southern states). Then the article claims that "many" Southern women are turning away from Bush, and gives as an example a liberal woman who claims to have voted for Bush in 2000 but not in 2004; if she already voted against Bush in 2004 (*against* the trend in the South), how can she speak for the 54% who voted for Bush that year? And given that Bush's 2004 increase in the Southern female vote took place largely in districts that are either heavily Republican or that vote Republican for the House but Democrat for Congress, I don't see how an alleged rollback of his 2004 female vote to 2000 levels will defeat GOP House candidates. This article is Democrat hype, pure and simple.
I would not waste a dime trying to reason with you because you have your own idiosyncratic and inpenetrable way of reasoning.
Frankly you irritate me more than the BDS anti-American leftists because you should know enough to take a stand for your country.
My reasoning is that married women have a vested interest in the well-being of their marriages and children whereas single ones tend to be fantasy-feminists and socialists. I was being partially facetious, but hey, it would solve a lot of problems.
I don't think you're a Dummicrat, but if you're not part of the solution by sittin on your hands, then YOU are part of the problem. If you don't vote, then IMHO then your opinion is worth as much as your vote...NOTHING!
Jimmy Carter - Worst President Ever
Okay, [grudgingly] I guess I'll forgive you. But only because married women are just naturally smarter [note I've not specified 'than whom'] ;o)
I know, I know, all you blind Bushbots are now gonna accuse me of being a Dummicrat plant but you're wrong as hell.
Yes, they will.
And yes, they are.
I've never understood blind obedience. It isn't a conservative trait. When our own disappoint us, we shouldn't let them off the hook just because we like the (R) after their names.
You're right you're a dummicrat.
MSM cheerleading for the dems as usual.
With the MSM being no different from the Nation these days, I am becoming increasing cynical about election polls.
That is why I contacted you and DJ about the House race polls. I trust you guys's analysis than the CNN pundits.
You're a conservative like I'm from Kyrghizstan.
Sooner? Like in Boomer Sooner? OU?
Dixie Belle ping
I am an unmarried Southern woman and to me Pres. Bush is the bomb. My friends have not waivered as well. I think the poll is liberal @rap as usual.
It's not a matter of "blind obedience". It's a matter of taking an adult viewpoint that the world is not perfect, nor are politicians, and recognizing that each election is a choice to be made. Not between a candidate and perfection, but between two candidates. One is closer to the ideal and one further from it. Refusing to make such a choice is like staying home on prom night because no girl in school meets your standards.
I'm a southern woman with a career exposing media bias. I say this article is designed to form opinions, not designed to report opinions.
"That is why I contacted you and DJ about the House race polls. I trust you guys's analysis than the CNN pundits."
If you are going to vote based on emotion then perhaps you should lose your franchise.
Failing to vote because "all the choices sucked" is just the same as letting go of the car's steering wheel when confronted with the choice of hitting a moose or a dog. I do not want to hit anything, but I'll take the dog over the moose everyday.
Exactamundo!
I keep hearing the BSNBC line, so I dont know our chances this time around. How do you think we'll do this upcoming election?
What would President Sooner1938 have done differently?
The left-wing media has been lying and spinning so hard against President Bush for so long that some people are bound to fall for it.
Do I agree with everything the Prez has said and done? Certainly not!
Would I vote for him again? Of course!
The unappeasables and one-note Johnnies are just falling into line with what the lefties want, "punishing" the party that at least leans conservative and helping elect hard-core liberals. My new tagline is from David Limbaugh; it seems relevant here.
It's not that we like the (R) after their names, it's just that the D's are traitors. R's are the lesser of two evils.
Turnout is going to be 90% of it.
Republicans are far better at turning out for off year elections than Dems.
Since the out of office party traditionally picks up seats during the off year, I think a result of status quo will be a major defeat for the Dems.
"War Turns Southern Women Away From GOP"
Not this southern woman.
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