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Rumsfeld calls on Dems for 'constructive' debate on Iraq (after Dem call for his resignation)
IHT ^ | Sept. 1, 2006 | AP

Posted on 09/01/2006 7:44:12 PM PDT by FairOpinion

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To: FairOpinion
"If Mr. Rumsfeld is so concerned with comparisons to World War II, he should explain why our troops have now been fighting in Iraq longer than it took our forces to defeat the Nazis in Europe."

Maybe they should read his speeches more carefully. I was in Fallon for his speech there. I didn't get the impression that his WWII references had anything to do with Iraq. His WWII references had to do with Iran and this tide of Islamakazis that we can either face now or bury our heads in the sand and wait for the big boom.

21 posted on 09/01/2006 8:27:14 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: FairOpinion

>> Through all the challenges, he remains the same man who stood atop the rubble in Manhattan with a bullhorn vowing to fight back. The leader who told a grieving nation that we will never forget what was lost. And the President who has worked every day to fulfill his vow to protect the American people and to bring the enemy to justice or to bring justice to the enemy.

Balls!


22 posted on 09/01/2006 8:32:31 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: tobyhill

What these dems are says is nonsensical. The defeat of the axis powers took 4 years after the US got involved, but this is different to the 3 weeks it took to topple Saddam. As for the insurgency, does Pelosi advocate we bomb the hell out cities we suspect of insurgency/terrorist activities the same way we bombed enemy cities in WWII? I bet that would be a quick way to end this insurgency. Of course, I am sure Pelosi would be against any of that. These Dems MUST be defeated at the ballot box, AGAIN!!!!


23 posted on 09/01/2006 8:43:27 PM PDT by David1
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To: struggle

24 posted on 09/01/2006 8:44:08 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
Reaching out to Dems is like reaching out to sharks.

This is AP spin. Rumsfeld didn't "reach out" to anyone. He simply challenged Rats to back up their assertions, in the friendliest possible way of course.

25 posted on 09/01/2006 8:45:29 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: FairOpinion

Although I agree that Islamofacist are very similar to the Nazis and other Facist in that era, there is a huge difference that not too many people are talking about.

At least with Hilter, Stalin, et al, they fought with real armies against the Allied armies. The Islamofacists today don't dare challenge any civilized nation in the West or Europe because they know how quickly they will be smashed into dog food. So instead they pick on civilian targets hiding behind women's clothing, using children as shields, sneaking onto civilian airlines and plowing them into buildings or blowing them up over the seas. They car bomb funerals as well as weddings of civilians in their own countries and somehow think it is glorious and honoring to their false god. The are in other words COWARDS.

Sadaam thought he was a revived Saladin and was in the midst of rebuiding the ancient gardens of Babylon. He as the others are DELUSIONAL. They will never conquer the world for Islam. We're not living in the dark ages anymore, though it appears they never left!

If the moderate Muslims who want themselves and their children to live in peace and happiness, they must be the banner bearers and GET IT INTO THE HEADS OF THE TERRORISTS that their view of a world under Sharia law and Islam, will NEVER happen.


26 posted on 09/01/2006 8:48:13 PM PDT by boatbums (Isn't saying 'Mean People Suck'...kinda mean?)
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To: boatbums

I agree -- the radical Islamic terrorists are several orders of magnitude worse than the Nazis or communists.

I think Bush and Rumsfeld are talking about the Nazis, to try to get some points across to the people, who can't comprehend the evilness of the terrorists, people tend to have at least some clue that "fascism is really bad", without knowing a lot about history. The problem is that only a small fraction of the general population was alive during WW II, so even that doesn't sink in.

I think most people can't really comprehend the severity of the threat we are facing.


27 posted on 09/01/2006 8:57:19 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: David1
The MSM and Rats are exaggerating the whole Iraqi insurgency issue anyway. In early August the MSM and Rats had claimed that July was one of the deadliest months in some amount of time and that there was an average of 120 dead Iraqis per day. Today the MSM and Rats are rehearsing the Pentagon report that claims Iraq could go into a civil war and in this report it claimed that there was 1600 Iraqi deaths in July. The numbers I get from the report shows that there was an average of 52 dead Iraqis per day not the previous 120 as was claimed. Just a month ago the MSM and Rats were claiming that Iraq was in a civil war but the same Pentagon report that the MSM and Rats are praising says that Iraq could be but is not currently in a Civil war and that a civil war can definitely be prevented.
28 posted on 09/01/2006 9:10:30 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Bernard

Senator Wm. Borah, Idaho.


29 posted on 09/01/2006 9:34:53 PM PDT by Elsiejay (.)
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To: tobyhill

Hmmmm.
Let’s go back to Ms pelosi and ask her a few questions.

1. When did we start fighting the Nazis?
If you use their declaration of war on US that started on 9 Dec 1941.
If you use the undeclared naval war, where we shot at U-boats, and U-Boats shot, hit, and SANK American Warships then you have to back up a year.

2. What was the size of the American Army that defeated the Nazis?
Will the democrats actively support with votes in Congress building up the American ground forces to that level? A “Yes” means every vote; a “No”ends the debate.

3. What ends the war?
Defeat of organized forces?
Defeat of organized resistance?
Note: The US Army fought a war against organized Nazi-Party based resistance to Allied occupation forces from 1945 through the early 1950s. Googol “werewolves” and “US Constabulary Corps”


30 posted on 09/01/2006 9:47:20 PM PDT by Nip (SPECTRE - taking out the enemy one terrorist at a time; at night; without warning or mercy)
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To: tobyhill

Bump. It took 10 years to get Germany and Japan pacified with stable democracies, and we still occupy both countries. Pelosi's comments are moronic. Her firsr was that they won't be swiftboated. HuH?


31 posted on 09/01/2006 9:47:51 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: okie01
"They hate George Bush so much that they have transposed his fate with America's. And they would destroy the country in order to destroy him."

Exactly! Sounds like kamikaze pilots. Instead of flying Nakajima Ki-115 Tsurugi airplanes, these Lefty cadets are taking this country in for an assault on the Bush Administration. That is why I will continue to call them the DemonRATs. They deserve every derogatory name we can give them because they are the enemy of this great nation.

32 posted on 09/02/2006 2:22:31 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: FairOpinion

"Pelosi, a California Democrat, had said: "If Mr. Rumsfeld is so concerned with comparisons to World War II, he should explain why our troops have now been fighting in Iraq longer than it took our forces to defeat the Nazis in Europe.""

Hmmm... Ms. Pelosi failed to mention we are still in Germany 61 years later.


33 posted on 09/02/2006 3:32:24 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Mediacrat - A leftwing editorialist who pretends to be an objective journalist.)
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To: FairOpinion
FLOFL! Does Rummy really think the Democrats want this country to win? They want America to LOSE! If they wanted to win, they wouldn't be asking for YOUR resignation, Sir. Inviting Democrats to a "constructive" debate is like asking sharks to turn into vegetarians. It ain't gonna happen.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

34 posted on 09/02/2006 3:35:04 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Can there be any doubt that if the U.S. and British major media on the home front had sided with Hitler the war would have lasted much longer and may have led to a Hitler victory?

Would we have had the courage to drop the A bomb on Japan if the media had blasted the President for fire-bombing Germany's major cities and killing hundreds of thousands of civilians?

Pelosi should be scared of the WWII comparison--for it shines a bright light on the party of Quislings she and her media supporters don't want you to see.
35 posted on 09/02/2006 3:44:53 AM PDT by cgbg (MSM aid and comfort to the enemy costs American lives.)
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36 posted on 09/02/2006 4:07:04 AM PDT by pookie18 ([Hillary Rotten] Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: FairOpinion

Rumsfeld should reach out to democrats and throttle them by their necks.


37 posted on 09/02/2006 4:09:54 AM PDT by Bullish ( The pig headed monkeys of Islam can kiss my grits!)
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To: FairOpinion

Why isn't Donald Rumsfeld our President? Why? How could we be so stupid as to not have elected him long ago?


38 posted on 09/02/2006 4:44:02 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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To: tobyhill

"....fighting in Iraq longer than it took our forces to defeat the Nazis in Europe"


Geez..we were in Japan after WWII at least 7 years!!!!!


39 posted on 09/02/2006 4:49:58 AM PDT by mo
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"Geez..we were in Japan after WWII at least 7 years!!!!!"

We were in Germany for 61 years.


40 posted on 09/02/2006 6:03:55 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Mediacrat - A leftwing editorialist who pretends to be an objective journalist.)
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