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When Muslims kill Muslims
Toronto Sun (Canada) ^ | Saturday, August 26, 2006 | SALIM MANSUR

Posted on 08/26/2006 5:27:26 AM PDT by GMMAC

When Muslims kill Muslims

Toronto Sun
Saturday, August 26, 2006

By SALIM MANSUR


In the marketplace of ideas, the Arab-Muslim world is presently a relatively barren region. Thinking is a perilous venture where dictators, demagogues and mob passion rule.

But when it comes to maiming and killing, the Arab-Muslim world holds a place of prominence. In particular, the ancient land between two rivers, now Iraq, has proven to be greatly fertile as killing fields.

The most famous massacre in Muslim history by armed might of the state took place at Karbala on the banks of the Euphrates in 680. On that terribly bloody day, Husayn bin Ali -- grandson of Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, by his daughter Fatima -- was brutally killed and decapitated as he was offering his mid-afternoon prayers.

Husayn's male companions were slaughtered by the army of Yazid, the caliph (Islam's supreme ruler), while women and children in the company of Husayn, including his wife and daughter, were abused and carried as war trophies to the capital of the expanding Arab-Islamic empire in Damascus.

The people of Karbala and surrounding areas passively watched as Muhammad's family and its claim to leadership of Muslims ended in tragedy. But belated grief tore the Arab-Muslim world apart, and its wounds continue to torment in countless ways a people for whom the massacre in Karbala has become the template of their history.

Karbala is a necessary reminder of Muslims being unequalled tormentors and killers of Muslims. Saddam Hussein as the ruling tyrant in Baghdad was only the most recent incarnation of an Arab Macbeth and the Mongol Genghis Khan rolled into one megalomaniacal killer.

It also illuminates the sheer hypocrisy of Arabs and Muslims who selectively and for political purposes rage against the United States and Israel (and not, for instance, against Russia or China despite the brutal suppression of their respective Muslim minorities) for Arab-Muslim casualties in conflicts that have been, almost without exception, precipitated by Arab-Muslim dictators and demagogues.

This past July was grisly, and not just because of the war in Lebanon unleashed by Hezbollah terrorists against Israel.

Iraq's health ministry reported July was the deadliest month for Iraqi casualties since March 2003. The figures provided were 3,438 Iraqis killed -- 1,855 of those as a result of sectarian violence and 1,583 from bombings and shootings carried out by insurgents. Some 3,600 were wounded during the same period.

These figures followed a UN estimate of nearly 6,000 Iraqis killed during May and June. The killings in Iraq have been indiscriminate, and the killers are mostly Arabs, belonging to Sunni or Shiite sects. It is noteworthy that Iraqi Kurds, who suffered Saddam's genocidal violence, are uninvolved in this sectarian savagery.

There has been no organized protest within the Arab-Muslim world or in the West against the daily toll of Iraqi deaths due to this hate-driven insurgency.

Nor is Iraq the only place where Muslim violence against Muslims rages unabated. There is Darfur in Sudan, Somalia, Afghanistan, Kashmir, Algeria until recently, and hotspots in Iran, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia and Nigeria, Uzbekistan, Palestine, Morocco, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon.

How, then, might we explain why Muslim deaths seem only to matter to Arabs and Muslims -- and to apologists of Arab-Muslim politics in the West -- when they occur as a result of conflicts with the U.S. or Israel?

In witnessing worldwide protests over Lebanese deaths resulting from the recent Hezbollah-Israeli fighting, we might conclude it is politically acceptable when Muslims murder untold numbers of Muslims, but entirely unacceptable when they are collateral casualties of Israeli bombings.

This is the Orwellian reality of much of the Arab-Muslim world today, where Muslim and non-Muslim lives are too often seen as readily and contemptuously disposable -- except when they become handy tools of propaganda against Jews, Hindus and Americans.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arab; canada; hezbollah; iraq; islamofascists; israel; karbala; lebanon; muslims; terrorists
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1 posted on 08/26/2006 5:27:28 AM PDT by GMMAC
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To: fanfan; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; Ryle; ...

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2 posted on 08/26/2006 5:28:48 AM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...

Salim Mansur ping.


3 posted on 08/26/2006 5:34:57 AM PDT by Clive
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To: GMMAC
For Lebanese people's opinions on the conflict: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/06/in_pictures_lebanese_views_on_the_aftermath_of_conflict/html/1.stm .

There is a divide between the Christians and the Muslims, though contrary to this article, the Muslims seem to be basically in agreement.

4 posted on 08/26/2006 5:38:37 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: GMMAC

bump


5 posted on 08/26/2006 5:40:29 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: GMMAC

For the last line of the article, how about Christian. Israel is identified by being Jewish, but India is secular. If Hindu is going to get put in for India, Christian should be put in for the United States.


6 posted on 08/26/2006 5:41:44 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Note Lebanese-Canadians' Website Home Page: pro Conservative, pro WOT.

However, the msm prefers to act as the mouthpiece for ethnic anti-Americans & apologists for Islamofascism - not folks like these.
7 posted on 08/26/2006 6:04:14 AM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC

Is it terribly bigoted of me to point out that all around the edges of Muslim ruled territory worldwide, there is violence directed at non-Muslims by Muslims?

Curious worldwide coincidence or religious fanaticism?

A united world of several billion Chinese, several billion Indians, several billion Africans, and billion Europeans and Western Hemisphere folks ought to be able to stop this.


8 posted on 08/26/2006 6:06:35 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill

If the UN even came close to it's original mandate, such would be the case, but it is strictly minority rule at the expense of what should be.


9 posted on 08/26/2006 6:12:16 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: wita

Sura 4:92-93 "It is not for a believer to kill a believer unless it be by mistake." ... "Whoso slayeth a believer of set purpose, his reward is Hell forever." One can only assume there are a lot of Muslims in Hell.


10 posted on 08/26/2006 6:37:48 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: GMMAC

Bump!


11 posted on 08/26/2006 6:44:18 AM PDT by F-117A (They say there is no such thing as an ex-Marine,.Murtha disproves that!!!)
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To: wita

I wasn't taking about the UN. That organization is strictly for small nations wanting to play with the big boys.

Great powers do --or should do--what is necessary to protect their interests. We simply need a few more years of mindless Muslim violence--and rising casualties-- to convince all the great powers that enough is enough.


12 posted on 08/26/2006 7:31:55 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill

Ending the oil dollars going to camel driving religious bigots will stop it. It's all about money. Our politicians have probably been bought by oil dollars, either that or blackmailed.


13 posted on 08/26/2006 7:40:33 AM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen (M)
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To: GMMAC

While Muslims are intent on killing each other, they just keep repoducing.


14 posted on 08/26/2006 7:46:59 AM PDT by hgro
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To: wildbill

"We simply need a few more years of mindless Muslim violence--and rising casualties-- to convince all the great powers that enough is enough."

The ONLY "great power" that is really significant in the world today is the US, and, IMHO, that tolerance countdown should be scaled in weeks rather than years. Enough was d*** well enough on 9/12/2001, although the hezbocrats and their pimps in our MSM have done their best to marginalize that fact.

I doubt that much action will be taken before the November elections; whatever the results, the middle of the month could become most interesting. We don't have all that force strength moving in and around the Mideast just to qualify for campaign ribbons.


15 posted on 08/26/2006 8:13:45 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (I can't really accept a welcome home until the last MIA does.)
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To: gaspar

The problem is for the salafiyya, Wahhabism / Muwahhidun anyone who doesn't believe exactly like they do is not a Muslim.


16 posted on 08/26/2006 8:15:55 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: GMMAC
In central Asia, the great historical figure is Tamerlane who killed mostly Muslims. He depopulated numerous cities, including Merv where none were left alive (some 200,000 killed) and the ground was salted. All his killings were done in the name of Allah but for his personal fame and the riches he could take.
17 posted on 08/26/2006 8:26:01 AM PDT by JimSEA ( "The purpose of diplomacy is to prolong a crisis." Spock)
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To: wildbill
It is all, of course, Bush's fault. If Bush hadn't invaded Iraq, Muslims wouldn't be killing Muslims, or (absolutely equivalent in the liberal mindset) it wouldn't be on our TVs every night.

Then we could go back to worrying about the truly important things in life like gay marriage, global warming, Wal-Mart and the killing of animals...

18 posted on 08/26/2006 8:36:16 AM PDT by Philistone (Turning lead into gold...)
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To: GMMAC

The death cult spreads death wherever it goes.


19 posted on 08/26/2006 8:40:50 AM PDT by tkathy (Einstein: Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.)
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To: GMMAC
When Muslims kill Muslims

Thats good thing, the more Muslims kill Muslims, the less will be for us to kill when the final confrontation comes.

20 posted on 08/26/2006 9:00:30 AM PDT by Anticommie
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