Italy Is Roiled by Murder of a Pakistani Woman and Other Violence Involving Immigrants

The New York Times ^ | August 26, 2006 | By ELISABETTA POVOLEDO

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BRESCIA, Italy, Aug. 23 — A series of unrelated killings here this month has pushed this elegant city to the center of a national debate on the challenges of immigration and cultural integration.

The trigger was the gruesome killing on Aug. 11 of Hina Saleem, a 20-year-old woman whose family moved here from Pakistan and who was found buried, with her throat slit, in the garden of her family home in a small town about 12 miles north of Brescia.

The tragedy ballooned into a cause célèbre after media reports alleged that Ms. Saleem had been killed because her traditionalist Muslim father objected to her Western lifestyle. She smoked and wore revealing, low-slung jeans like many young women. News reports said she had been living with an Italian man. Her body was found after her boyfriend reported her missing.

Her father and uncle have been arrested in the case. [A brother-in-law turned himself in on Thursday, and an unidentified fourth man, also of Pakistani descent, was arrested Friday and accused in the case, the ANSA news agency reported.]

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Muslim leaders, who have condemned the killing, say they resent accusations that Ms. Saleem was murdered as a result of her family’s religious beliefs.

“For us, murder is a sin, not only a crime,” said Mahmood Tariq, the director of the Muhammadiah Islamic Cultural Association in Brescia. “This is an exceptional case,” he added, describing the murder as a question of tension between members of the Saleem family. “Cases like this happen in all societies.”

On Thursday, Ms. Saleem’s mother, Bushra Bakum, dismissed notions that religion had played a role in the killing. She told reporters that Ms. Saleem had been a constant worry to her parents.

[vimto]

The Islamic reasoning is baffling. They elide every consequential argument.

[pieceofthepuzzle]

"On Thursday, Ms. Saleem’s mother, Bushra Bakum, dismissed notions that religion had played a role in the killing. She told reporters that Ms. Saleem had been a constant worry to her parents."

?????

[Gay State Conservative]

..pushed this elegant city to the center of a national debate on the challenges of immigration and cultural integration.

Somehow,I doubt that the deceased young woman would have used the word "challenge" here.But then,she would have had a much more "up close and personal" view of I Slam than does the Upper West Side crowd at The Slimes.

[Fred Nerks]

"...She told reporters that Ms. Saleem had been a constant worry to her parents..."

I was a constant worry to my parents but they didn't slit my throat and bury me in the garden!

[vimto]

“Cases like this happen in all societies.”

"Yes" says my lovely wife, "all societies in which there are Muslims"

[hershey]

There was a recent report -- this past week -- that Italy was rushing a new immigration law into the works.

[SoldierDad]

My youngest daughter was (and still is-she's now 21) a constant worry to my wife and I. Thank God our faith doesn't lead us to act in this fashion.

[hershey]

I wondered if it had to do with this case. Muslim thinking boggles the mind. ('Murder's a sin, not a crime...she was a constant worry to her parents.')

[Heatseeker]

I believe this is poor woman in question:

Souce: ANSA.it

[NewHampshireDuo]

Seems to me to be totally consistent with Islamic "culture."

[shagbark]

I hope they hurry. Last year at this time there was a big to do about moslem parents keeping children from school.
Madrassas anyone?

[csvset]

The victim.

Pops, Keeping the faith...

[vimto]

makes it more real when you see the victim...thanks...

Be angry, be very very, angry..

[vimto]

"..she was a constant worry to her parents."

well that's all right then!?

[Joe Boucher]

So we're going to kill you to save you?
Sounds like a Janet Reno type of thing.

[A knight without armor]

"alleged that Ms. Saleem had been killed because her traditionalist Muslim father objected to her Western lifestyle. "


These honor murders and blowing up innocent people worldwide are ok for the moos, but let somebody walk their pet on the street and the imams are up in arms because the sight of a dog distresses families. I am so sick of their ignorant medieval mentality. I can't believe we have to bend over backwards giving them all this politically correct consideration such as not profiling.

[aquila48]

"...She told reporters that Ms. Saleem had been a constant worry to her parents..."

How many teens are not constant worries to their parents? If everyone followed the muslim's example, our so called population problem (and population) would disappear.

And leave it to the NY Slimes to find (or make up) all the right quotes to excuse the act and absolve the muslim religion!!

[oyez]

I can't imagine why she would want to leave her parent's kind of society.I'm sure they already had picked a more appropriate man for her.

[hershey]

Pakistani father killed his daughter to redeem his honor, with family approval (celebrating -- the aunt bought a new dress), a few months after 9/11. I think they lived in Michigan. Unfortunately for Pop, the feds had wired the apt. since he was part of a charity fronting for Islamofascists....al Qaeda. So when he called 911, claiming his daughter had confronted him with a knife, demanding $5K, they knew what had really happened. The teenager begged for her life, tried to get her mother to help her, but Pops shot her dead. (Her sin was dating a non-Muslim and working at MacDonald's after school, where she was an honor student.) DA allowed a plea bargain, so Mom didn't go to jail. Pop died in jail of a heart attack. They should have convicted the aunt, too. The feds had recorded a phone call where they'd discussed killing the girl, and the aunt said she'd bought a new dress to celebrate.