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Who will be Hillary Clinton's running mate? A man who knows White House better than others
indiadaily.com ^ | Aug. 21, 2006 | Peter Ostanovich

Posted on 08/22/2006 12:55:07 AM PDT by Mo1

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To: Mo1
Hillary and Bill Clinton not only brings the country together, brings democratic party base to full vigor...

Is this person saying that Bill Clinton works like a dose of Viagra for some people?

41 posted on 08/22/2006 3:34:32 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: Mo1

Makes good reading, but they'll have to change the Constitution before Bill can run for Vice President.


42 posted on 08/22/2006 3:36:00 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Well, Bill has already trotted out Cass Sunstein, a real, albeit leftist, con law professor to say exactly that, and I think they're (barely) right.

That's because the XXII Amendment is so poorly drafted. It does not make someone who has been twice elected President "ineligible to the office". It makes them ineligible to become President by being elected again.

"Constitutionally ineligible" means less than 35 years of age, not a natural born citizen, or not resident in the US for the previous 14 years.

If George W. Bush were elected to the House from Texas after 2009, and became Speaker, and the President and Vice President were to leave office simultaneously, there is no question that Bush would serve again as President.

Now, it's clear that the "Bill for VP" movement contradicts the INTENT of the drafters of XXII. They probably would have drafted it better if they ever could have imagined such a person as Clinton ever becoming President in the first place.

But they didn't.

43 posted on 08/22/2006 3:38:44 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
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To: John Valentine
He is only ineligible to SEEK ELECTION to the Presidency

That's not even true.

He can seek it all he wants. He can run. You can vote for him.

But an Elector for President chosen from your state can't vote for him, or, more precisely, Congress may not count any votes cast for him by such Electors.

44 posted on 08/22/2006 3:41:35 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
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To: UnChained
They would be well into their second term and they would still be arguing it in the Supreme Court:

As a practical matter, if 271 Electors for Vice President were chosen (or chusen) and voted for him, no Supreme Court would dare to intervene.

45 posted on 08/22/2006 3:43:34 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
There is also the part about the VP cannot be from the same state as the P.

Unfortunately, that is moot since the election of two Texans in 2000 and 2004.

46 posted on 08/22/2006 3:44:50 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
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To: Jay Howard Smith

Stop It! Immediately! :) I did not know that Satan had a twin.


47 posted on 08/22/2006 3:46:00 AM PDT by defconw (Yes I am a Bushbot, so what of it? (Official Snowflake))
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To: Eagles Talon IV
If an individual is barred from holding office more then 2 terms

But that's not what XXII says.

48 posted on 08/22/2006 3:46:14 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
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To: Jay Howard Smith

Clinton (Marxist) and Obama (Muslim) - what a combination.


49 posted on 08/22/2006 3:48:07 AM PDT by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: Jim Noble

Don't you all see? THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT!

The Clintons would *LOVE* to have us fighting them over constitutional questions. It would sound like we are the spoiled losers counting chads in 2000.

That is what the Clinton's want with this tactic, nothing more.


50 posted on 08/22/2006 3:48:53 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Jim Noble

Yes but Cheney moved his address back to Wyoming. Harder to do when you are married. Stop being contrary.


51 posted on 08/22/2006 3:49:28 AM PDT by defconw (Yes I am a Bushbot, so what of it? (Official Snowflake))
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To: Armigerous

I was thinking Imadinejad. It woudl give Hillary a VP that she is taller than and they are on the same team after all.


52 posted on 08/22/2006 3:53:55 AM PDT by IamConservative (Humility is not thinking less of oneself; humility is thinking about oneself less.)
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To: Eagles Talon IV

No individual is barred from holding office more than 2 terms. That is emphatically NOT what the Amendment says.

It merely says that he cannot be ELECTED President more than twice. He certainly could be elevated to the office from another office through the operation of Presidential succession rules.

There is not one word in the amendment to suggest otherwise.

Moreover, there is language in the Amendment providing that a former Vice President, elevated to the Presidency for less than two years would be eligible for election twice, making it possible for such an individual to serve as President for 10 years. That is plainly more than two terms.

In short, there is NO bar in the plain language of the Amendment to suggest a bar to holding office for more than two terms.


53 posted on 08/22/2006 3:55:13 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: defconw
Yes but Cheney moved his address back to Wyoming. Harder to do when you are married

Actually, many, many married couples (who file separately) have different legal residences for tax reasons.

If Cheney could "live" in Wyoming for electoral purposes, Bill can certainly "live" in Arkansas.

54 posted on 08/22/2006 3:55:39 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
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To: Jim Noble

Other then you, me, Bush and Cheney, who even knew that Cheney was living in Texas? No body. Everyone knows where Clinton lives. It's immaterial any way. Even Hillary knows Bill is toxic.


55 posted on 08/22/2006 3:57:52 AM PDT by defconw (Yes I am a Bushbot, so what of it? (Official Snowflake))
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To: Eagles Talon IV
Amendement XII

..... But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

"Constitutionally ineligible" means less than 35 years of age, not a natural born citizen, or not resident in the US for the previous 14 years. And that's ALL it means.

56 posted on 08/22/2006 3:58:45 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Eagles Talon IV
Amendement XII ..... But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

Worth repeating.

57 posted on 08/22/2006 3:59:47 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Jim Noble

In a nutshell.


58 posted on 08/22/2006 3:59:59 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: defconw
Yes but Cheney moved his address back to Wyoming. Harder to do when you are married. Stop being contrary.

what's so hard about married people living in different states? Either Hillary or Bill could claim Hillary's D.C. address as their primary residence. Or Bill can claim Arkansas as his home state. Or anything - after the Cheney switch to Wyoming, the two-from-different-state requirement is nothing more than a minor inconvenience.

59 posted on 08/22/2006 4:00:13 AM PDT by Flashlight
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To: Paleo Conservative

Some states may still have laws precluding holding one elected position while running for another, but the US Constitution certainly doesn't prohibit doing so.


60 posted on 08/22/2006 4:02:55 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Sophomore dies in kiln explosion? Oh My God! I just talked to her last week...)
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