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Democrats Topple Tradition for 2008 Election (Desperado...Why Don't You Come to your Senses?)
Christian Science Monitor ^ | August 21, 2006 | Linda Feldman

Posted on 08/21/2006 4:39:43 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

To boost diversity in presidential nominating votes, they put Nevada's and South Carolina's sooner

Move over Iowa and New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina are now members of the Democratic Party's "early nominators" club.

By adding new states to its early roster of presidential nominating contests, the Democratic National Committee (DNC) aims to add racial and geographic diversity to the selection process.

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: US: Iowa; US: Nevada; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2008primary; dnc2008; electionpresident
Under the plan, adopted over the weekend in Chicago, Iowa will still hold the very first event - party caucuses - and New Hampshire will keep its traditional first primary in the nation. But Nevada will squeeze its caucuses into the eight-day gap between Iowa and New Hampshire, and South Carolina will hold primaries as soon as a week after New Hampshire. If all the state parties cooperate, these contests could end up taking place in a time frame as tight as 15 days in January 2008.

The new schedule reflects a long-held concern in national party circles that Iowa and New Hampshire are both more white than the nation as a whole, and that their disproportionate clout in determining Democratic presidential nominees was giving blacks and Hispanics short shrift. Nevada, the fastest-growing state in the country, has more Hispanics than the national norm; South Carolina has a large African-American population.

"It's an opportunity for the candidates to speak in a broader way to Democrats across the country," said Alexis Herman, co-chair of the DNC's rules committee, according to the Associated Press.

But New Hampshire Democrats are unhappy over the loss of clout, and it's not clear that they will go along. Aware that this change could be coming, they have long discussed the possibility of holding their primaries in early January 2008, or even in late 2007. To discourage this from happening, the national Democrats adopted a plan that would penalize any candidate who campaigns in a state that defies the new system: Delegates won in such a "rogue" state would not count toward nomination at the summer convention.

If New Hampshire bucks the new system and moves its primary to an earlier date, some candidates may decide the loss of those delegates - a relatively small number, given the state's size - in exchange for the publicity of winning the contest is a worthwhile gamble. If New Hampshire goes its own way, other states may opt to do the same.

But in the end, all the discussion about scheduling undergirds a larger question: Will the plan produce a better nominee - one more capable of winning the presidency?

"It's hard to tell," says John Green, a political scientist at the University of Akron in Ohio. "If you look back at the past manipulations of the primary season, by both parties, they have often not produced the desired results."

In 1988, he notes, Southern Democrats set up "Super Tuesday" - a single day of primaries across the South - to boost the region's clout in the nominating process, in the hope that then-Sen. Al Gore (D) of Tennessee would win. Michael Dukakis, then-governor of Massachusetts, ended up securing the nomination.

Professor Green also points out that it's too early to predict the dynamics of the race for the 2008 nominations. Based on potential candidates' actions now - who's working to build a national coalition, fundraising base, and staff, and who's already visiting New Hampshire and Iowa - it's easy to see who's thinking of running but it's not certain who ultimately will.

"If a strong liberal wins in Iowa, that could create a dynamic in which South Carolina and Nevada don't even matter," says Green.

By setting up a packed schedule of early contests, the Democratic Party appears to be forcing candidates to hopscotch around the country, which would make it difficult for them to engage in the kind of living-room politics that became the hallmark of Iowa and New Hampshire. It's possible, therefore, that some candidates will choose to forgo some of those first four states, and gamble on an attempt to win big in just one or two.

1 posted on 08/21/2006 4:39:44 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: All
Who could ask for more? ;)
2 posted on 08/21/2006 4:41:04 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

All your minorities are belong to us


3 posted on 08/21/2006 4:44:06 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

2 blacks, a jew, a woman and a cripple?

The Dems in Michigan still think that building their usualy coalition (big labor, NAACP, college profs, et al) that they can carry elections. Maybe that's their idea with this new schedule?


4 posted on 08/21/2006 4:44:47 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: Mr_Moonlight

Great strategy..... appeal to minorities and alienate the north east.


5 posted on 08/21/2006 4:45:50 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Keep watch for the Mahdi...... he's coming on 22 August!!)
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To: Mr_Moonlight

The year we run out of 'Rich White Guys' to run this country...I'm outta here. ;)

And The Beast thinks she has 'A Snowball's Chance?' LOL!


6 posted on 08/21/2006 4:50:23 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Deck chairs on the Titanic. They're just flailing around now.

We've seen this part before:

all the discussion about scheduling undergirds a larger question: Will the plan produce a better nominee - one more capable of winning the presidency?

As Rush says, they still don't get it. This is just another example of trying to game the rules of the system (their own rules and their own system, to boot) rather than having ideas and plans and so on.

Of course, fratricide is perhaps the most noteworthy aspect of a new Democrat scheme:

the national Democrats adopted a plan that would penalize any candidate who campaigns in a state that defies the new system: Delegates won in such a "rogue" state would not count toward nomination at the summer convention.

7 posted on 08/21/2006 4:51:01 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I really need a barf bag for this one.


8 posted on 08/21/2006 4:51:46 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftists, the enemy within.)
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To: Mr_Moonlight
"add racial and geographic diversity to the selection process."

Sounds like profiling to me!

Where's the ACLU?

9 posted on 08/21/2006 4:58:04 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: traditional1
Sounds like profiling to me!

Where's the ACLU?

Cheering this on ???

/sarc off

10 posted on 08/21/2006 5:04:25 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The Democrats are notorious for not nominating blacks and hispanics to statewide offices. Illinois is the only one that has had black Democrat Senators in the modern era, IIRC. The only "hispanic" governor is Bill Richardson, and his hispanic credentials seem to consist of having a blonde mother who was born in Mexico City.

If you look at statewide offices and representatives in non-racially-gerrymandered districts, I'm willing to bet there are more minority Republicans in such offices than Democrats. Certainly the number of such nominees is huge, especially compared to the number of minority Republican voters.

Democrats repeatedly give blacks in particular second class status. They can hold office as long as they don't take that office from a white Democrat.


11 posted on 08/21/2006 5:08:58 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
To discourage this from happening, the national Democrats adopted a plan that would penalize any candidate who campaigns in a state that defies the new system

You vill campaign vere ve say and ven ve say! You vill NOT deviate from zis formaat unless vee tell you to ... zeez are ORDERS!!!

12 posted on 08/21/2006 5:29:48 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Playing the "Race" card once more.


13 posted on 08/21/2006 5:34:37 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Mr_Moonlight
You vill campaign vere ve say and ven ve say! You vill NOT deviate from zis formaat unless vee tell you to ... zeez are ORDERS!
14 posted on 08/21/2006 5:52:46 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

From Herr Fhurer Dean !


15 posted on 08/21/2006 7:06:25 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The new schedule reflects a long-held concern in national party circles that Iowa and New Hampshire are both more white than the nation as a whole, and that their disproportionate clout in determining Democratic presidential nominees was giving blacks and Hispanics short shrift.

So now they will nominate Butthead instead of Beavis.

16 posted on 08/21/2006 7:29:53 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Rabid ethnicist.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

DNC Chairman Howard Dean Meets With Muslim American Leaders
5/18/2006 5:45:00 PM

http://www.masnet.org/articleinterest.asp?id=3333

..."I look forward to continuing to work with the leaders of the Muslim American community to advance our shared values and goals for America." (Howard Dean, 5/17/2006)


17 posted on 08/21/2006 8:09:08 PM PDT by callthemlikeyouseethem (GWB: 12 Aug 06: "...I ask for your patience, cooperation, and vigilance in the coming days.")
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To: callthemlikeyouseethem

Wow. If that doesn't sum up the Looney Left nicely, I don't know what does!


18 posted on 08/22/2006 6:03:49 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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