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Federal Appeals Court: Driving With Money is a Crime
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Posted on 08/20/2006 8:57:44 PM PDT by FreedomCalls

Eighth Circuit Appeals Court ruling says police may seize cash from motorists even in the absence of any evidence that a crime has been committed.

A federal appeals court ruled yesterday that if a motorist is carrying large sums of money, it is automatically subject to confiscation. In the case entitled, "United States of America v. $124,700 in U.S. Currency," the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit took that amount of cash away from Emiliano Gomez Gonzolez, a man with a "lack of significant criminal history" neither accused nor convicted of any crime.

On May 28, 2003, a Nebraska state trooper signaled Gonzolez to pull over his rented Ford Taurus on Interstate 80. The trooper intended to issue a speeding ticket, but noticed the Gonzolez's name was not on the rental contract. The trooper then proceeded to question Gonzolez -- who did not speak English well -- and search the car. The trooper found a cooler containing $124,700 in cash, which he confiscated. A trained drug sniffing dog barked at the rental car and the cash. For the police, this was all the evidence needed to establish a drug crime that allows the force to keep the seized money.

Associates of Gonzolez testified in court that they had pooled their life savings to purchase a refrigerated truck to start a produce business. Gonzolez flew on a one-way ticket to Chicago to buy a truck, but it had sold by the time he had arrived. Without a credit card of his own, he had a third-party rent one for him. Gonzolez hid the money in a cooler to keep it from being noticed and stolen. He was scared when the troopers began questioning him about it. There was no evidence disputing Gonzolez's story.

Yesterday the Eighth Circuit summarily dismissed Gonzolez's story. It overturned a lower court ruling that had found no evidence of drug activity, stating, "We respectfully disagree and reach a different conclusion... Possession of a large sum of cash is 'strong evidence' of a connection to drug activity."

Judge Donald Lay found the majority's reasoning faulty and issued a strong dissent.

"Notwithstanding the fact that claimants seemingly suspicious activities were reasoned away with plausible, and thus presumptively trustworthy, explanations which the government failed to contradict or rebut, I note that no drugs, drug paraphernalia, or drug records were recovered in connection with the seized money," Judge Lay wrote. "There is no evidence claimants were ever convicted of any drug-related crime, nor is there any indication the manner in which the currency was bundled was indicative of drug use or distribution."

"Finally, the mere fact that the canine alerted officers to the presence of drug residue in a rental car, no doubt driven by dozens, perhaps scores, of patrons during the course of a given year, coupled with the fact that the alert came from the same location where the currency was discovered, does little to connect the money to a controlled substance offense," Judge Lay Concluded.

The full text of the ruling is available in a 36k PDF file at the source link below.

Source: US v. $124,700 (US Court of Appeals, Eighth Circuit, 8/19/2006)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: atf; batf; clinton; confiscation; dea; disorderinthecourt; donutwatch; driving; drugs; english; govwatch; illegalimmigration; janetreno; judiciary; libertarians; nebraska; rapeofliberty; scotus; searchandseizure; warondrugs; wod; wodlist
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1 posted on 08/20/2006 8:57:46 PM PDT by FreedomCalls
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To: FreedomCalls

George III looks better every day. We seem to have traded one tyrant 3000 miles away for 3000 tyrants one mile away.


2 posted on 08/20/2006 9:02:00 PM PDT by dsc
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To: FreedomCalls

If as stated, this is pure BS! As a matter of fact, I'd prefer no confiscations unless accompanied by a relevant conviction. The WOD has gone too far.


3 posted on 08/20/2006 9:02:37 PM PDT by umgud (Do moderate muslims luv us infidels and Jews?.... Didn't think so.)
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To: FreedomCalls

This decision is blatantly wrong.


4 posted on 08/20/2006 9:03:37 PM PDT by NYIslander
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To: FreedomCalls

Does it raise suspicion carrying that kind of cash? Yes. Does it justify the government seizing it? No way in hell. Suspicion is not guilt!


5 posted on 08/20/2006 9:04:32 PM PDT by MadLibDisease (Liberalism is a philosophy of consolation for Western Civ. as it commits suicide: Jerry Pournelle)
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To: umgud

This law has become so abused. When did Judges start ruling on feelings instead of facts?


6 posted on 08/20/2006 9:04:54 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: FreedomCalls

What a crock.

Just a note: Would it be possible to amass $100,000 of cash without some drug residue being on some of the bills. Isn't that physically impossible?

I sure hope I never get a drugsniffing dog sic'd onto my wallet after I've made an ATM withdrawl.


7 posted on 08/20/2006 9:07:10 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: umgud

The police department doing the confiscating gets to keep the money for operating expenses. That's part of the problem too.


8 posted on 08/20/2006 9:07:56 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: CindyDawg
When did Judges start ruling on feelings instead of facts?

When did the first group of humans select one amongst them to settle disputes???

10 posted on 08/20/2006 9:08:20 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: CindyDawg

Now, now -- they don't just rule on feelings, they also bring in penumbras and emanations.


11 posted on 08/20/2006 9:10:26 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
Isn't that physically impossible?

IIRC at one time there was a study in which several bills from several different banks in the Miami area were tested for drugs.

Something like 60% of them tested positive for drug residue.

L

12 posted on 08/20/2006 9:11:12 PM PDT by Lurker (I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
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To: FreedomCalls
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13 posted on 08/20/2006 9:12:28 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

I can't find a source right now but I read once that upwards of 90% of all U.S. currency is tainted with drug residue.


14 posted on 08/20/2006 9:13:05 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

No, it isn't. One tainted dollar bill that makes it's way into an ATM has the potential to taint hundreds of bills. I hears a stat once that said that a substantial amount of the US monetary supply is tainted.


15 posted on 08/20/2006 9:13:09 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: FreedomCalls

Absolutely and utterly ridiculous. This judge should be impeached and exiled. The failed war on some drugs zealots must be stopped before they shred our entire Constitution.


16 posted on 08/20/2006 9:13:34 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: FreedomCalls

The Ninth Circuit must be contagious.


17 posted on 08/20/2006 9:15:38 PM PDT by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Graybeard58; A Balrog of Morgoth; misterrob
What if the Treasury treats all new bills with illegal drugs as part of the manufacture process?

Tin foil?

18 posted on 08/20/2006 9:23:17 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Hezbollah: Habitat for Humanity with an attitude)
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To: FreedomCalls
A ridiculous seizure of private property. I'm not surprised the dog alerted. There is lots of cash in circulation with drug residues (cocaine) on it. You may have a $20 bill in your own pocket with such residue at this moment.

The lesson here is to put large sums of money in a bank account and use a wire transfer when the appropriate time comes to transfer it to the intended party. If you do otherwise, the government has decided you are a drug dealer and will confiscate your personal property with no other proof required.

19 posted on 08/20/2006 9:23:46 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: mysterio

'Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!' G.W. Bush


20 posted on 08/20/2006 9:26:45 PM PDT by treffner
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To: CindyDawg
When did Judges start ruling on feelings instead of facts?

When Congress passed hate crime laws, which are nothng but feelings which have become criminal. I know that is not the same as the feelings of the judge but that is part of the same legal confusion.

21 posted on 08/20/2006 9:28:44 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: dsc

Washington, Sam Adams, Paul Revere, etc, had a perfect response to this kind of high-handed dealing.


22 posted on 08/20/2006 9:28:57 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: treffner
'Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!' G.W. Bush

He doesn't sit on the 8th circuit court. Take the BDS elsewhere.
23 posted on 08/20/2006 9:32:09 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: CindyDawg
The Revenue Act of 1764, also known as the Sugar Act, was the first tax on the American colonies imposed by the British Parliament. Its purpose was to raise revenue through the colonial customs service and to give customs agents more power and latitude with respect to executing seizures and enforcing customs law. That the Act came from an external body rather than a colonial legislature alarmed a handful of colonial leaders in Boston who held that the Act violated their “British privileges”. Their principle complaint was against taxation without representation. Just as important, however, were the Act’s profound implications for the colonial judicial system, for the Revenue Act of 1764 allowed British officers to try colonists who violated the new duties at a new Vice-Admiralty court in Halifax, Nova Scotia, thus depriving the colonists of their right to trial by a jury of their peers. The seriousness of this was not lost on the Massuchusetts Legislature: “The extension of the powers of the courts of vice-admiralty has, so far as the jurisdiction of the said courts hath been extended, deprived the colonies of one of the most valuable of English liberties, trials by juries” (Petition from the Massachusetts Legislature to the House of Commons, 3 November 1764). The Act also established new trial procedures which essentially freed customs officers from all responsibility and from effective civil suits for damages in colonial courts. While a handful of colonial leaders recognized the grave implications of the Revenue Act, it was not until news of the Stamp Act reached the colonies that the seeds of rebellion were planted in the hearts and minds of the broader public.
24 posted on 08/20/2006 9:33:36 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Hezbollah: Habitat for Humanity with an attitude)
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To: Myrddin
The lesson here is to put large sums of money in a bank account ...

When more than $10,000 in cash is either put in or taken out of a bank or other financial institution it must be reported to the government, possibly leading to the same results.

25 posted on 08/20/2006 9:34:36 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: FreedomCalls
Associates of Gonzolez testified in court that they had pooled their life savings to purchase a refrigerated truck to start a produce business.

Be that as it may, I find it hard to believe that they are telling the truth. How can they expect to run a business without first starting with a bank account, a cashier's check, anything but over $100 grand in a cooler? Who the heck buys a commercial truck with cash in the first place? We can all understand a few thousand in cash for a used car, but who makes deals like this in cash? Who would accept that kind of money in exchange for a truck anyway?

I think there is more going on here than is presented in this article.

26 posted on 08/20/2006 9:35:20 PM PDT by Tancred
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To: FreedomCalls
"Don't leave your country without it!"


27 posted on 08/20/2006 9:36:10 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: treffner
'Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!' G.W. Bush

Never heard or read anything remotely similar. Source, other than delusion?

28 posted on 08/20/2006 9:37:16 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Tancred

Look at a bill, THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE, nuff said!!


29 posted on 08/20/2006 9:39:35 PM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: Tancred
I think there is more going on here than is presented in this article.

If the "Victim" was named John Smith..., the media would have no reason to print the story!

30 posted on 08/20/2006 9:40:06 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: treffner

It has nothing to do with Pres Bush -- get a life!


31 posted on 08/20/2006 9:41:39 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (God Bless America and the men and women who serve in our military!)
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To: FreedomCalls
Re: "Federal Appeals Court: Driving With Money is a Crime"

The next thing on the list: "Having Money in a 401(k)/Roth IRA is a Crime." I won't be surprised once Social Security is a vapor of its present form in a couple generations.

32 posted on 08/20/2006 9:42:02 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Tancred

I think there is a lot more going on here as well. You don't make a cash transaction to buy a truck with that amount of money. Why not put it in a bank and get a cashier's check?

This smells.


33 posted on 08/20/2006 9:44:11 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (God Bless America and the men and women who serve in our military!)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
Just a note: Would it be possible to amass $100,000 of cash without some drug



You can ask for new money that has never been in circulation. They would take it off the truck with a forklift where I worked in the past. The site has been repalced with a parking lot. Each brick is $20,000 you would only need 5.
34 posted on 08/20/2006 9:44:37 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Red is good)
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To: eastforker

If you put more than $10,000 in cash in the bank at one time, you have to account for where it came from because it is going to be reported. Anyone carrying $100,000 in cash is stupid IMHO!


35 posted on 08/20/2006 9:45:28 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (God Bless America and the men and women who serve in our military!)
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To: PhiKapMom

I don't care if he was a drug kingpin, no drugs when he was stopped, no other evidence, no confiscation, period.


36 posted on 08/20/2006 9:48:19 PM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: PhiKapMom

If you put more than $10,000 in cash in the bank at one time, you have to account for where it came from because it is going to be reported................... And that is just wrong.


37 posted on 08/20/2006 9:49:41 PM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: Dark Wing; Dog Gone

ping


38 posted on 08/20/2006 9:51:00 PM PDT by Thud
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To: All

I suggest you read the decision.


39 posted on 08/20/2006 9:53:04 PM PDT by Thud
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

"I sure hope I never get a drugsniffing dog sic'd onto my wallet after I've made an ATM withdrawl."

The state troopers could start a new way to earn cash...set up a half mile outside a casino and pull over winners, large amounts of cash....no arrests.....more doughnuts for the station.


40 posted on 08/20/2006 9:53:15 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid - Kierkegaard)
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To: Tancred
Alot of the farmers I know still make large purchases with cash. It would not surprise me for someone to buy a tractor or such with cash.

BTW, it seems to me that the Gov't is conditioning people like yourself and many others to avoid using cash. It is our legal tender and there shouldn't be anything illegal or wrong with having lots of it.
41 posted on 08/20/2006 9:53:23 PM PDT by Marius3188 (Happy Resurrection Weekend)
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To: umgud
The WOD has gone too far.

Perfect summation.

42 posted on 08/20/2006 9:53:31 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: eastforker
Look at a bill, THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE, nuff said!!

It's not "nuff said" because if you ran a business where you sold commercial trucks that cost in the neighborhood of $100 grand to anyone who came in with a cooler full of cash the odds are that you would be dealing with criminals, gangsters, or persons who otherwise acquired that kind of cash by illegitimate means. I find it very hard to believe that anyone who ran a dealership would finalize a deal like that without telling the buyer to go to a bank first. You just would not want to accept that amount of cash no matter what was printed on the bills.

Please, seriously, this is the real world, not some exercise in theoretical absolutisms. I stand by my assertion that there is something very suspicious with the behavior of the defendants, and likewise anyone who would deal with them with that amount of cash.

My father ran a yacht brokerage (same idea as real estate, but with boats). Nobody would come into his office with a duffel bag full of cash and want to buy a boat. The idea is ridiculous, and anyone doing that would be shown to the door.

43 posted on 08/20/2006 9:54:36 PM PDT by Tancred
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To: eastforker

It may be wrong to you but it was caused by money laundering which is against the law. You can put over $10,000 in the bank -- you just have to explain where it came from which I have no problem.


44 posted on 08/20/2006 9:55:57 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (God Bless America and the men and women who serve in our military!)
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To: Tancred

Other than the two parties concerned, it realy is not anybody elses bussiness.Cash is legal to own! At what amount do you think the government should get involved? Too some a $100 is a lot of cash, to others $10,000 is mere pocket change.


45 posted on 08/20/2006 10:02:01 PM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: Tancred
I think there is more going on here than is presented in this article.

What we think or feel is unimportant. Proof is what is needed.

46 posted on 08/20/2006 10:02:15 PM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: PhiKapMom

Yup, the guvmint needs their share of the booty don't they.


47 posted on 08/20/2006 10:03:37 PM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
When more than $10,000 in cash is either put in or taken out of a bank or other financial institution it must be reported to the government, possibly leading to the same results.

Possibly, but not with the same self serving intent as with a law enforcement agency. Law enforcement stands to put that money in their own pockets (budget) by confiscation of money claimed to be "drug money". There is a definite conflict of interest built into the law. Such confiscation should be limited to cases where a felony conviction is obtained and the trial includes incontrovertable evidence that the money was derived from the sale of illegal drugs. As observed by another post, confiscations routinely occur in cases where no charges are ever filed. The standard of proof is too lax. It tramples all over personal property rights without due process of law.

48 posted on 08/20/2006 10:04:49 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: PhiKapMom
Actually I don't think it is that unusual.

Illegals in particular don't use banks and deal in cash. That way they avoid the IRS and INS. If several families were pooling their resources to purchase a large refrigeration truck for a new business it wouldn't be that strange they'd try to use cash.

These types of people often buy cars with cash.
49 posted on 08/20/2006 10:06:17 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Tancred

While I agree with you there is something suspicion going on here, I have to say that any businessman that refuses a cash sale, regardless of the product, should not be in business.


50 posted on 08/20/2006 10:10:26 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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