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Mutiny as passengers refuse to fly until Asians are removed
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 20 aug 06 | CHRISTOPHER LEAKE and ANDREW CHAPMAN

Posted on 08/20/2006 4:41:16 AM PDT by white trash redneck

British holidaymakers staged an unprecedented mutiny - refusing to allow their flight to take off until two men they feared were terrorists were forcibly removed.

The extraordinary scenes happened after some of the 150 passengers on a Malaga-Manchester flight overheard two men of Asian appearance apparently talking Arabic.

Passengers told cabin crew they feared for their safety and demanded police action. Some stormed off the Monarch Airlines Airbus A320 minutes before it was due to leave the Costa del Sol at 3am. Others waiting for Flight ZB 613 in the departure lounge refused to board it.

The incident fuels the row over airport security following the arrest of more than 20 people allegedly planning the suicide-bombing of transatlantic jets from the UK to America. It comes amid growing demands for passenger-profiling and selective security checks.

It also raised fears that more travellers will take the law into their own hands - effectively conducting their own 'passenger profiles'.

The passenger revolt came as Ryanair boss Michael O'Leary was accused of using the terror crisis to make money. Government sources say he boasted to an official at the Transport Department: "Every time I appear on TV, I get a spike in sales."

The Tories said the Government's failure to reassure travellers had led the Malaga passengers to 'behave irrationally' and 'hand a victory to terrorists'.

Websites used by pilots and cabin crew were yesterday reporting further incidents. In one, two British women with young children on another flight from Spain complained about flying with a bearded Muslim even though he had been security-checked twice before boarding.

The trouble in Malaga flared last Wednesday as two British citizens in their 20s waited in the departure lounge to board the pre-dawn flight and were heard talking what passengers took to be Arabic. Worries spread after a female passenger said she had heard something that alarmed her.

Passengers noticed that, despite the heat, the pair were wearing leather jackets and thick jumpers and were regularly checking their watches.

Initially, six passengers refused to board the flight. On board the aircraft, word reached one family. To the astonishment of cabin crew, they stood up and walked off, followed quickly by others.

The Monarch pilot - a highly experienced captain - accompanied by armed Civil Guard police and airport security staff, approached the two men and took their passports.

Half an hour later, police returned and escorted the two Asian passengers off the jet.

'There was no fuss or panic'

Soon afterwards, the aircraft was cleared while police did a thorough security sweep. Nothing was found and the plane took off - three hours late and without the two men on board.

Monarch arranged for them to spend the rest of the night in an airport hotel and flew them back to Manchester later on Wednesday.

College lecturer Jo Schofield, her husband Heath and daughters Emily, 15, and Isabel, 12, were caught up in the passenger mutiny.

Mrs Schofield, 38, said: "The plane was not yet full and it became apparent that people were refusing to board. In the gate waiting area, people had been talking about these two, who looked really suspicious with their heavy clothing, scruffy, rough, appearance and long hair.

"Some of the older children, who had seen the terror alert on television, were starting to mutter things like, 'Those two look like they're bombers.'

"Then a family stood up and walked off the aircraft. They were joined by others, about eight in all. We learned later that six or seven people had refused to get on the plane.

"There was no fuss or panic. People just calmly and quietly got off the plane. There were no racist taunts or any remarks directed at the men.

"It was an eerie scene, very quiet. The children were starting to ask what was going on. We tried to play it down."

Mr Schofield, 40, an area sales manager, said: "When the men were taken off they didn't argue or say a word. They just picked up their coats and obeyed the police. They seemed resigned to the fact they were under suspicion.

"The captain and crew were very apologetic when we were asked to evacuate the plane for the security search. But there was no dissent.

"While we were waiting, everyone agreed the men looked dodgy. Some passengers were very panicky and in tears. There was a lot of talking about terrorists."

Patrick Mercer, the Tory Homeland Security spokesman, said last night: "This is a victory for terrorists. These people on the flight have been terrorised into behaving irrationally.

"For those unfortunate two men to be victimised because of the colour of their skin is just nonsense."

Monarch said last night: "The captain was concerned about the security surrounding the two gentlemen on the aircraft and the decision was taken to remove them from the flight for further security checks.

"The two passengers offloaded from the flight were later cleared by airport security and rebooked to travel back to Manchester on a later flight."

A spokesman for the Civil Guard in Malaga said: "These men had aroused suspicion because of their appearance and the fact that they were speaking in a foreign language thought to be an Arabic language, and the pilot was refusing to take off until they were escorted off the plane."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; islam
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It's nice to see that UK citizens have more spine than their feckless PC government. Never mind, though, soon they will outlaw this sort of behavior, as well - mustn't let the citizens defend themselves, even non-violently.
1 posted on 08/20/2006 4:41:17 AM PDT by white trash redneck
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To: white trash redneck

There were no racial or derogatory slurs or epithets....they just silently got up and walked off. I like it!


2 posted on 08/20/2006 4:44:46 AM PDT by Dudoight
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It's about time they profile based on reality. Not every Muslim is a terrorist, but every terrorist is a Muslim.


3 posted on 08/20/2006 4:50:25 AM PDT by montag813
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Never mind, though, soon they will outlaw this sort of behavior, as well - mustn't let the citizens defend themselves, even non-violently.

Ultimately, this kind of activity cannot be outlawed because people will simply refuse to fly unless absolutely necessary.

This occurrance IMO is a perfect example of citizen vigilance (positive vigilantism) caused by perceived government weakness.

Muslims may think they are going to use the weakness of government to get their way but they are sadly mistaken.

4 posted on 08/20/2006 4:52:48 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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If Asians got off a plane because they were scared of two whites, the US and UK press would be asking "Why do they hate us?"

In this case, we will see a torrent of "We're racists" op-eds.

5 posted on 08/20/2006 4:53:53 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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In the gate waiting area, people had been talking about these two, who looked really suspicious with their heavy clothing, scruffy, rough, appearance and long hair.

Remember the old cartoons of the mad bombers throwing the round black bombs? They all seemed to look like this.
6 posted on 08/20/2006 4:58:43 AM PDT by aruanan
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OK AMERICA... Let's get with it and follow our British Brothers example. Does anyone know what became of the mom who gave her previously detained cell phone, cash carrying son flight manifests??? After 9/11, Southwest Air in California had "employees" who looked like SWAT Hunks checking people in... I noticed a "perspiring, agitated Arab male, complaining, looking around like crazy, and I told this "hunk" employee that I was concerned with his behavior. He said, "don't worry, we've been watching him and he is NOT getting on this plane." He was behind me, they pulled him aside, put him behind a screen and stripped him. He never did get on the plane. Made me breathe easier... Politically incorrect? Maybe. But what other choices do we have. Better to err on the side of caution.


7 posted on 08/20/2006 4:58:46 AM PDT by Terridan (God help us send these Islamic Extremist savages back into Hell where they belong...)
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It's about time they profile based on reality. Not every Muslim is a terrorist, but every terrorist is a Muslim.

ELF terrorists aren't Muslim.
8 posted on 08/20/2006 4:59:34 AM PDT by aruanan
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Mutiny as passengers refuse to fly until Asians are removed

It would have been mutiny only if airline personnel farther down the chain the authority than the pilot had refused to let the plane take off.
9 posted on 08/20/2006 5:00:44 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: white trash redneck

Good make them take camel express.


10 posted on 08/20/2006 5:01:54 AM PDT by boomop1 (there you go again)
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ELF terrorists aren't Muslim

You're right - they're not. Which is why

1) the profiling needs to ask more than "Does this person look middle eastern?" It needs to be modeled on the El Al security system, which focuses on the totality of the person's behavior, not just ethnicity; and

2) some random screening needs to be retained.

11 posted on 08/20/2006 5:05:10 AM PDT by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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"......looked suspicious with their heavy clothing (underwear tank tops), scruffy, rough appearance and long hair".

I see this at the mall or supermarket every week........and these are the better-dressed ones.

Leni

12 posted on 08/20/2006 5:06:03 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Israel Hold Firm !................No Retreat means No Repeat !)
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It's a sad state of affairs...on one hand you may get blown out of the air...on the other, if all goes well, all you have is a handful of peanuts to remember your flight by...


13 posted on 08/20/2006 5:08:31 AM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (Always bring a liberal to a gunfight)
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Perhaps the "moderate" muslims (both of them) will start to get the message once civilized people refuse to be in their presence.

If they get in the elevator, you get off. If they get on the train or plane, you get off. If they come in a store, you leave.

To do otherwise is taking a risk. Boom!


14 posted on 08/20/2006 5:12:16 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: aruanan

No, but their profile is blowing up auto dealers, and ski resorts, isn't it? Then their are the Basque terrorists, there are probably more examples.


15 posted on 08/20/2006 5:17:46 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: white trash redneck

Screening for ragheads would still get 99% of the terrorists. We might be able to live with the terrorist Scandinavian grandma's.


16 posted on 08/20/2006 5:18:25 AM PDT by razzle
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To: white trash redneck

This has to spread and not peter out or it will accomplish nothing. If it gets widespread enough the government there, and maybe our government here, may finally realize something of the scope of the immigration problem and the wisdom-utter necessity- of getting these populations out of our countries.


17 posted on 08/20/2006 5:20:59 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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"Screech! Racism!"
18 posted on 08/20/2006 5:22:34 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: white trash redneck

Hells bells! Common Sense is being bruited about.


19 posted on 08/20/2006 5:23:41 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: white trash redneck

"Arabic sounding language"

I'd be interested to hear what they were actually speaking.


20 posted on 08/20/2006 5:28:33 AM PDT by brothers4thID (Being lectured by Ted Kennedy on ethics is not unlike being lectured on dating protocol by Ted Bundy)
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