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They want us dead--ALL non-Muslims, DEAD--not just quiet.
renewamerica.us ^ | August 14, 2006 | Wes Vernon

Posted on 08/16/2006 10:26:48 PM PDT by antonia

They want us dead--ALL non-Muslims, DEAD--not just quiet.

Wes Vernon

August 14, 2006

 

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/060814

"I don't know whether you guys know it yet, but this country's at war."

Those words in the new movie "World Trade Center" were uttered on 9/11 in a law enforcement setting among people who dutifully plunged straight into the face of "complete chaos and utter hell," as one of them described it.

" World Trade Center" is more than a powerful gripping real-life drama. What it shows is a microcosm of what Americans in every part of this nation - not just in New York and Washington - will surely endure if we lose this war on Islamofascism. We might have to endure it even before we win - if we do.

We may very well lose this war. Our problem is that many Americans not only fail to realize that fact, but assume that if we lose, so what? We've lost before and survived. If we lose this time it won't be post-Vietnam again. This time, it will not be just a case of counting our dead overseas, withdrawing our troops, hanging our heads, and retreating into our little shell.

The best explanation I have seen of what is at stake comes in an essay by Dr. Vernon Chong, a retired Air Force General, a surgeon with a distinguished 31-year military career who has been serving on the California Veterans Board.

Here is what he says would happen if we lose:

" We would no longer be the premier country in the world." OK, so you say what's a little wounded American pride? Read on.

If we lose, "The attacks will not subside, but rather will steadily increase. Remember, they want us dead." Repeat, "They want us dead, not just quiet [Italics mine]. If they had just wanted us quiet, they would not have produced an increasing series of attacks against us over the past five years. The plan was, clearly, for terrorists to attack us until we were neutered and submissive to them."

And if we don't submit but simply withdraw from the conflict and go on about our business? For one example of what would follow, see "World Trade Center" and see the kind of living hell likely to be showered on every last holdout community in America. They will not just leave you alone if you leave them alone.

And don't expect any other nation even to try to bail us out if we end up in that predicament. By that time, they would fear reprisals and would be unable to help us.

The Islamic fascists have already picked off Spain by using terrorism to get the Spanish to pull troops out of Iraq. Spain is finished. They tried to send the same message to the British, but our cousins across the pond held firm. Thank God for Tony Blair.

Dr. Chong believes France is next. He says our one hope with the French "is that they might see the light and realize that if we don't win, they are finished too, in that they can't resist Muslim terrorists without us."

Alas, General Chong is not optimistic about surrender-oriented (my term, not his) France. He notes "France is already 20% Muslim and fading fast."

Bottom line on "what's the big deal?" if we lose (for those not already dead, that is): "[O]ur production, income, exports, way of life will all vanish as we know it. After losing, who would want [to] trade or deal with us if they were threatened by the Muslims? If we can't stop the Muslim terrorists, how could anyone else?"

This column has warned repeatedly that unless we - as a people - take this war seriously, we and our loved ones will face a hell on earth. This past week, one United States senator who "gets it" paid a political price. Democrat Joe Lieberman lost his primary race in Connecticut. The senator will now run as an independent. Some of the bitter left-wing bloggers are suggesting Senate Democrats kick him off his committee seats and deny him membership in the Democrat caucus since he has "left" the Democrat Party.

Adding insult to injury, the man who defeated him is right out of central casting as your "Make love, not war" child of the sixties elitists. As recently as Sunday on Fox News, Ned Lamont called for cutting and running in Iraq within a year (a la the Kerry-Feingold Amendment), leaving behind personnel for "reconstruction and training," with a lick and a promise that "we'll be there to make sure that Iran and others don't come in there to create any mischief [How? Maybe by building a couple of hospitals? Now that will scare the half-crazed president of Iran]. Lamont also trashed the NSA warrantless wiretaps tracking phone conversations between terrorists abroad and jihadists in secret cells here at home.

Lamont, an heir to the J.P. Morgan fortune, has said the reason Iran threatens the world with nuclear annihilation is that the Bush administration has offered too many sticks to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and "not enough carrots." Nonsense, we've tried every feasible diplomatic approach in the book. How do you negotiate with a mad dog? Mike Wallace's cordial interview with Ahmahdinejad on "60 Minutes" did not undo that dilemma.

Ned Lamont is not a serious man. His family background suggests at best a tradition of tone-deafness to threats from America's enemies. He is the grand-nephew of Corliss Lamont, an infamous Stalinist who - if he was not, as he claimed he was not, a card-carrying member of the Communist Party - arguably cheated the party of dues payments. This is not to suggest the sins of the ancestor should be visited upon the child, but it is legitimate to notice when failure to take the measure of our enemies runs in the family of a would-be U.S. Senator, if the candidate himself today appears to be carrying on that tradition.

The Connecticut debacle is merely an update on General Chong's essay on what ails this country as it faces a life-and-death threat. He mentions another one.

For nearly five years after 9/11, President Bush tolerated as his Transportation Secretary Norman Y. Mineta, who finally resigned last month. The president turned a blind eye to Mineta's insistence that airline safety take a back seat to the holy grail of political correctness. He refused to allow "profiling" of passengers at airports, even though all of the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslins between 17 and 40 years of age. Chong asks, "Does this sound like we are taking this thing seriously?"

Notwithstanding that, the president deserves support from all Americans for his willingness to identify the enemy. He called the foiled plot to blow up airplanes over the Atlantic Ocean the work of "Islamic fascists."

Right away, the politically correct elements in the Muslim community took a "Who, me? How dare you!" approach that leaves one with a feeling they doth protest too much.

" We believe this is an ill-advised term and we believe that it is counter-productive to associate Islam or Muslims with fascism," said Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).

Strange, that. My history references do not show the mainstream German-American community issuing statements back in 1942 saying, "We believe that the phrase German Nazism is an ill-advised term, and we believe it is counter-productive to associate Germans with the German Nazis."

Sit through "World Trade Center." Contemplate that what you see on that screen is the hell the enemy wants to impose on you and Americans of all faiths in all parts of the country many times over. 9/11 was a mild wake-up call compared to what our enemies, the Islamic fascists, have in store for us if we let them.

As Senator Rick Santorum said at the National Press Club last month, simply calling our current conflict a "war on terror" is like saying our enemy in World War 2 was the "war on the blitzkrieg." We won that war because our nation did not recoil from identifying the enemy, and Americans of all ethnicities were behind the war effort.

And enemies of free speech such as CAIR - which have used PC intimidation to drive radio talkshow hosts off the air - dare to tell us we can't define our enemy? They can go fly a kite.

Isn't the Muslim religion peaceful?

" Hopefully," says General Chong, "but that is really not material." The predominantly Christian population of Germany may have been peaceful too. But Hitler - raised a Christian, but later considering himself an historic rival to Christ - created what was basically a pagan regime bent on world conquest. 5 to 6 million Christians were killed by the Nazis, almost as many as the well-publicized holocaust of some 6 million Jews.

As Chong points out, peaceful Muslims - no matter how numerous - "are no protection for us from the terrorist Muslim leaders" and their freely announced intent to kill all of us "infidels."

We need World War II-style unity in this country if we are to fend off this enemy and our destruction.

General Chong puts it this way: "United we cannot lose. Divided we cannot win." Put that on your bumper sticker. Wes Vernon is a Washington-based writer and veteran broadcast journalist.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 21stcenturycrusades; 911; holywar; islamicfascist; islamonazism; jihad; kufir; wereintowin; whywefight; wtc
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1 posted on 08/16/2006 10:26:49 PM PDT by antonia
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To: antonia

Uh-oh, someone who is plaigairizing one of Nutty Newt's old book titles has read the Koran!

Watch out!

At leat they are spot on about your local mosque, and I'm not talking about the welfare cases running around in cheap suits, bow ties and funky glasses.


2 posted on 08/16/2006 10:30:49 PM PDT by 308MBR ( "She pulled up her petticoat, and I pulled out for Tulsa!" Abstinence training from Bob Wills.)
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To: antonia

Got it! Understanding, attitude, vote, and guns ready.


3 posted on 08/16/2006 10:31:58 PM PDT by ed ict
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To: moonshine2000

IBTZ, my dear moonshine?


5 posted on 08/16/2006 10:37:38 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: moonshine2000

Wow, that was fast! I am IATZ.


6 posted on 08/16/2006 10:39:16 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (Every time I hear the word "exercise", I wash my mouth out with chocolate.)
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I refuse to hit the "abuse" button.

Abuse is half the fun of this place, but it sounds like your old lady should get with the program a bit better due to all the references to your phallus.

Twice in five minutes is a bit telling.

Let me open the spay blade on my pocketknife, and we'll talk.


7 posted on 08/16/2006 10:40:24 PM PDT by 308MBR ( "She pulled up her petticoat, and I pulled out for Tulsa!" Abstinence training from Bob Wills.)
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To: CheyennePress

Nope, you just missed it, I think.
I hit his handle, he was gone, hit the ok, you were here.
Maybe you got a tie. Tie goes to the runner, but WTF was he talking about??? FreeRepublic run by who? Geez, whata weirdo that one was...


8 posted on 08/16/2006 10:42:30 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon

That one blew up so fast, he didn't even get to read my thinly veiled threat.

I guess your name had better be "Dick" before you start talking like that!

LOL


9 posted on 08/16/2006 10:44:09 PM PDT by 308MBR ( "She pulled up her petticoat, and I pulled out for Tulsa!" Abstinence training from Bob Wills.)
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To: 308MBR

He had been here a few months.

I guess there is such a thing as latent trolls.


10 posted on 08/16/2006 10:45:24 PM PDT by 308MBR ( "She pulled up her petticoat, and I pulled out for Tulsa!" Abstinence training from Bob Wills.)
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To: iknowthetruh

Buh-bye!


12 posted on 08/16/2006 10:53:47 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (Every time I hear the word "exercise", I wash my mouth out with chocolate.)
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To: iknowthetruh

What are you talking about?

(sounds of my Lincoln buzzbox when a rod sticks)


13 posted on 08/16/2006 10:54:21 PM PDT by 308MBR ( "She pulled up her petticoat, and I pulled out for Tulsa!" Abstinence training from Bob Wills.)
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To: antonia
After the most recent chaos Iran is the fortress of Islam, with the science of terror tactics, terror training and recruiting, the armories where all the weapons of terror are made and distributed to an army of fanatics. As ghastly as it will sound to some, the U.S. should strike Iran a blow that will severely damage them for the next 20 years. Hit their nuclear facilities, their military, decapitate their religious and political dictators. Hit them so hard from air and sea that they can no longer function as a country. Spare their oil facilities because this how they feed their people.

On a smaller scale, this is what Ronald Reagan did to Qaddafi after linking him to a terror bomb in a Berlin discquoe. Qaddafi barely escaped with his life. The event traumatizes him to this day.

When the U.S. went into Afghanistan and later Iraq, the Arab world was respectfully silent for a long period. They were afraid they were next on our target. Khaddafy signaled he would give up his weapons of mass destruction and Syria agreed to pull troops out of Lebanon.

We have lost the momentum because we squndered the initiative. I believe we can realign the Mideast, and regain their version of respect, in a few weeks of heavy bombardment of Iran. Everything else will fall into place.
14 posted on 08/16/2006 10:54:41 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him?

No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our Political Correctness, and all of our civil rights during this conflict and have a clean, lawful, honorable war. None of those words apply to war. Get them out of your head.

Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and/or the Administration that it almost seems they would literally like to see us lose. I hasten to add that this isn't because they are disloyal. It is because they just don't recognize what losing means. Nevertheless, that conduct gives the impression to the enemy that we are divided and weakening. It concerns our friends, and it does great damage to our cause.

Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and media regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies best what I am saying. We have recently had an issue, involving the treatment of a few Muslim prisoners of war, by a small group of our military police. These are the type prisoners who just a few months ago were throwing their own people off buildings, cutting off their hands, cutting out their tongues and otherwise murdering their own people just for disagreeing with Saddam Hussein.

And just a few years ago these same type prisoners chemically killed 400,000 of their own people for the same reason. They are also the same type enemy fighters, who recently were burning Americans, and dragging their charred corpses through the streets of Iraq.

And still more recently, the same type enemy that was and is providing videos to all news sources internationally, of the beheading of American prisoners they held.

Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several days have thought and talked about nothing else but the "humiliating" of some Muslim prisoners -- not burning them, not dragging their charred corpses through the streets, not beheading them, but "humiliating" them.

Can this be for real?

The politicians and pundits have even talked of impeachment of the Secretary of Defense. If this doesn't show the complete lack of comprehension and understanding of the seriousness of the enemy we are fighting, the life and death struggle we are in and the disastrous results of losing this war, nothing can.

To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this prisoner issue makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome burned -- totally oblivious to what is going on in the real world. Neither we, nor any other country, can survive this internal strife. Again I say, this does not mean that some of our politicians or media people are disloyal. It simply means that they are absolutely oblivious to the magnitude, of the situation we are in and into which the Muslim terrorists have been pushing us, for many years.

Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to kill all infidels! That translates into ALL non-Muslims -- not just in the United States, but throughout the world.

We are the last bastion of defense.

We have been criticized for many years as being 'arrogant.' That charge is valid in at least one respect. We are arrogant in that we believe that we are so good, powerful and smart, that we can win the hearts and minds of all those who attack us, and that with both hands tied behind our back, we can defeat anything bad in the world!

We can't!

If we don't recognize this, our nation as we know it will not survive, and no other free country in the world will survive if we are > defeated.


And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that allow freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, equal rights for anyone -- let alone everyone, equal status or any status for women, or that have been productive in one single way that contributes to the good of the world.

This has been a long way of saying that we must be united on this war or we will be equated in the history books to the self-inflicted fall of the Roman Empire. If, that is, the Muslim leaders will allow history books to be written or read.

If we don't win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the Muslims take over France in the next 5 years or less. They will continue to increase the Muslim population of France and continue to encroach little by little, on the established French traditions. The French will be fighting among themselves, over what should or should not be done, which will continue to weaken them and keep them from any united resolve. Doesn't that sound eerily familiar?

Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some external military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away, politically correct piece by politically correct piece.

And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown, worldwide, that they abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or even to themselves, once they are in power.

They have universally shown that when they have taken over, they then start brutally killing each other over who will be the few who control the masses. Will we ever stop hearing from the politically correct, about the "peaceful Muslims"?

I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said above. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. I hope now after the election, the factions in our country will begin to focus on the critical situation we are in, and will unite to save our country. It is your future we are talking about! Do whatever you can to preserve it.

After reading the above, we all must do this not only for ourselves, but ourchildren, our grandchildren, our country and the world.

15 posted on 08/16/2006 10:55:58 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: Theresawithanh

He's BAAAACK!


16 posted on 08/16/2006 10:56:25 PM PDT by 308MBR ( "She pulled up her petticoat, and I pulled out for Tulsa!" Abstinence training from Bob Wills.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I'm afraid it will have to be on a much more personal level, like some up close gut shots and tossing into the porcine feed lot.


17 posted on 08/16/2006 10:58:19 PM PDT by 308MBR ( "She pulled up her petticoat, and I pulled out for Tulsa!" Abstinence training from Bob Wills.)
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To: iknowthetruh

snicker....It'll be already in the morning...I think I saw you swerving on the freeway today...Hope you made it back to DU safely.


18 posted on 08/16/2006 11:03:17 PM PDT by hope (Let know one deceive you!!!)
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To: 308MBR

We could truck their corpses to the Purina mill and have them pulverized and combined with swine feed.


19 posted on 08/16/2006 11:04:05 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: hope

What do you want to bet he'll be back in ten minutes?

What's up there mod? Are you fishing for trolls, or is this one of those welfare cases wearing a cheap suit with a bow tie and funky glasses?


20 posted on 08/16/2006 11:06:14 PM PDT by 308MBR ( "She pulled up her petticoat, and I pulled out for Tulsa!" Abstinence training from Bob Wills.)
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