Give Us Shari'a, UK Muslim Leaders Tell Gov't [They Want To Destroy Western Civilization ALERT]

CNS News ^ | Aug. 16, 2006 | Patrick Goodenough

[TeleStraightShooter]

I snuffed it out in post #40

[Alouette]

Narrow your cry for expulsion to the minority of Muslims who advocate violent Jihad and our legal system

It is the responsibility of the alleged majority in the Muslim community to expel this so-called minority from their midst.

If they don't take out their own garbage, it piles up into a huge stinking mountain, and others will have to remove it for them.

[TeleStraightShooter]

by calling another person who disagrees a bigot

Not me, poster # 14 called himself a bigot.

While you are accurate in describing the political and moral thoughts of a minority of Muslims, you are incorrect in assigning them to every Muslim in our Republic.

It's too bad more Muslims don't speak up and clear this up for you. It's a PR problem they have brought upon themselves.

and btw: you GOT IT emphasis at the end only emphasizes to me that you indeed don't "get it".

[TeleStraightShooter]

concur

[TeleStraightShooter]

Any religion that preaches and promotes forced conversion, murder, and mayhem against unbelievers is the path to heaven for it's adherants becomes fair game as far as many of us are concerned....which is why we have the Second Amendment.

Nice sequitur

[Defiant]

I did not mean to imply that you are Muslim. Let me clarify: By being Muslim, a person advocates violent jihad. It is the tenet of their religion. I never said all Muslims act on the tenets of their religion. But, if they believe what the Koran clearly prescribes, they will support, in their hearts if not their actions, the overthrow of normal civilized societies and their replacement by barbaric Islamic ones.

You like to change the argument when you are wrong. I purposely did not use the word "Russian" in my post. I said "Soviet". I also purposely did not use the word "Communist" because it was technically possible to be a communist or a marxist and believe that the state would whither away peacefully. But a Leninist believed that the people had to help the process, and that is a distinction that merited all avowed Leninists from being allowed to emigrate to this country. Leninists who were born here were allowed to believe whatever tripe they wanted, but if they acted on their beliefs, by, for example, taking part in an organization that actively worked for the overthrow of the government, they could be criminally punished under our laws and the Constitution. Unfortunately, too little of that was done over the decades, and the practice of proscribing that type of behavior has become less common.

But it is legal, and it would also be legal to proscribe membership in an organization that advocates the violent overthrow of our government to be replaced with a theocratic dictatorship, even if that organization calls itself a religion.

My father was born a Muslim in a Muslim land. I know many more Muslims than you, my dhimmi friend. The only Muslim that is a good citizen is not a good Muslim.

[tractorman]

When a “religion’s” tenets include killing all of the infidels (yourself included) and imposing their own laws in place of our own, then I say that particular “religion” should no longer receive 1st amendment protection but rather condemnation and expulsion

[winner3000]

(Shouldn't that be Imammodium?)

That's good! Never thought of that!

[dragonblustar]

[Our man in washington]

We need to get all the Muslims out of America before we have the same problems as England. I don't care if you refer to yourself as a bigot; I do care for your cavalier disregard of the religion clause in the 1st amendment.

Narrow your cry for expulsion to the minority of Muslims who advocate violent Jihad and our legal system and I will forgive you.

I don't discriminate against Islam as a religion. If someone wants to set up a religion that's just like Islam but without the call to Jihad, I would say live and let live.

But as others have pointed out, Islam is also a political system. Nobody has the right to assemble a violent group within the United States. The moderate Muslims have not come forward in large numbers to reject the violent ones, so the whole group must be considered violent. We don't have the knowledge and means to separate the two groups.

If we deport the millions of Muslims in this country, I'm sure we're going to lose some good citizens. But we don't deport those Muslims, we're going to have Civil War in this country in the next 50 years. You make the call.

[KDD]

There is a solution.

The Wahhabi must go the way of the Knights Templar.
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A reformation in Islam that separates and or delineates literalism from conceptualism in the Koran so as to be compatible with civilized norms. They need a Martin Luther.

An Islam that denounces theocracy as part of it's central tenet.

Prospects for such scenarios seem bleak however.

[Little Ray]

Actually, trade "sane" for civilized.

The proper response is to persecute them viciously. A sane nation will preserve its borders and culture and destroy invaders that don't assimilate.

[eleni121]

By definition a Muslim believes in jihad whether the violent al quaeda kind or a type similar to the Brezhnevian incrementalism policy.

Read your little green book - Koran. It's all there.

Got it?

[KDD]

[Bubba M. Aurelius]

If they wish Sharia the Brits should consider buying all of those demanding it a one way ticket to their nation so the desire for Sharia is met.

[jordan8]

"Britain needs a new generation of Muslim leaders who are untainted by association with, or sympathy for, Islamic extremism and who are proud of their British identity," he said.

Britain doesn't need Muslims at all. Their presence is at the expense of British natives, something this so-called conservative has chosen to collaborate with.

[conservativecorner]

BINGO BUMP!

[Modok]

Sounds like the peaceful moslims need have the burdizzo used again.

[attiladhun2]

Another thing done to young Muslim girls who seem to be too friendly with boys in Britain and other Western nations is to have clitorechtomies performed by unscrupulous Muslim doctors either in country or somewhere in the ME.

[attiladhun2]

There are already Muslim judges in Britain who would do just that. Fortunately, the judiciary is not nearly so powerful as here in the States.

I fear for this country, as well. The Muzzies have learned to play the victim very well. They are also gaining positions of authority (like county coroner and police investigator) who will allow them cover to commit crimes like honor killings and the murder of those who leave the umma or speak out against Islam with impunity. Once they have these and other poitions they will be able to tip off Muslim terrorists or facilitate terrorist acts. Just recently one of the plotters of this new "Bojinka" plot had a full access security pass to Heathrow airport! So there it is. I don't want to broad brush a whole religion, but there are darn few I would want to trust in any postion of authority.