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UNIFIL peacekeepers will not disarm Hizbullah
The Jerusalem Post ^ | August 15, 2006 | By JPOST.COM STAFF

Posted on 08/15/2006 1:14:41 AM PDT by garbageseeker

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To: rightwingcrazy

The 15,000 UN people to be placed there only guarantee Israel cant shoot back for fear of hitting them nxt time the fighting breaks out. They are human shields for Hezballah. Other than that a force led by French is useless as tits on a boar hog.


21 posted on 08/15/2006 3:32:21 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: garbageseeker

22 posted on 08/15/2006 3:37:08 AM PDT by Samwise (All that is needed for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.)
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To: Jameison

Yes, they signed.

I can't read Condi's mind, but if it were me or Bolton, I would've been thinking:

"Ok, they're screaming for a ceasefire, claiming they are victims. They have an army of 50,000. So, Lebanon, here's your ceasefire: Take responsibility for your state, take control and responsibility for all weapons firing at others, agree that Hezbollah is to blame for this war, and you'll have your ceasefire."

They signed. Now they're weasling out.

And if I were Condi/Bolton, I'd be saying, "Ok, but don't play victim anymore - you're the reason you don't have a ceasefire."

And let loose the dogs of war - hopefully with a new Israeli P.M. and war cabinet.


23 posted on 08/15/2006 3:51:10 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: garbageseeker
Its official. Neither the Lebanese nor the UN will disarm Hezbollah. Et Tu, Olmert?

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

24 posted on 08/15/2006 3:52:03 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Caipirabob
Just what I believe I said. And if the Israeli government is surprised, I can't believe it was so blind!

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

25 posted on 08/15/2006 3:53:36 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Jameison

Look, here's the long term as I see it. Israel has to defeat Hezbollah, but even that is temporary if they come back. And they'll come back unless:

Israel stays there - not good for Israel.
Lebanon has a strong government that wants peace and maintains control of its state/borders.

The second option is by far preferrable, by far.

However it is not possible so long as Hezbollah holds the Commander in Chief and major power over the government in Lebanon. Changing this requires the citizens - non-Hez/Shia - to change their government.

Removing the current Hez leader's victim cover, putting them squarely in blame for civilians that Israel will have to kill to get to defeat Hezbollah, can weaken their hold on power within Lebanon and further dimish their standing in diplomatic circles and world opinion.

THIS was the purpose of the ceasefire-surely-to-fail. It was not a negotiated settlement, nor a true ceasefire. It was a political tactic.


26 posted on 08/15/2006 4:00:26 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Jameison
why did Bush and Condi agree to such a stupid French "ceasefire" and UN resolution

Elections, gas prices and the stock market.


BUMP

27 posted on 08/15/2006 4:07:44 AM PDT by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: garbageseeker
Maj.-Gen. Alain Pellegrini, said Tuesday that his peacekeeping force will not attempt to disarm Hizbullah.

Pellegrini said reinforcements for the UN personnel already in Lebanon were needed quickly...

Pellegrini needs reinforcements to do what? Observe? What would he need if he were actually going to confront Hizbullah? (other than a spine, I mean.) Why is it up to the UN commander to interpret the resolution? The UN jast passed it. Shouldn't they be telling nim what his mission is?

28 posted on 08/15/2006 4:09:59 AM PDT by vamoose
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To: vamoose
"Pellegrini needs reinforcements to do what? Observe?"

Yup.
The French sure are great observers.
Sure now how to look at stuff.
29 posted on 08/15/2006 4:13:02 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: D-fendr
The agreement will be broken of course, but Lebanon will have less than a leg to stand on to reclaim its victimhood.

Yeah right the world's MSM will expose them for what they are
30 posted on 08/15/2006 4:13:37 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: D-fendr

I sure hope you are right.
And I sure hope our people know what they are doing.


31 posted on 08/15/2006 4:14:41 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Cobra64

To provide cover while Hez b'allah reloads and regroups.


32 posted on 08/15/2006 4:15:19 AM PDT by PogySailor
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To: Jameison

No guarantees and they have a very tough job ahead. But the fact that Hezbollah and Iran both opposed the agreement was a good sign to me that Rice/Bolton were on the right track.


33 posted on 08/15/2006 4:20:45 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: garbageseeker

Has the jackass read 1701, or does he just feel like being french and hoist the white flag right now?


34 posted on 08/15/2006 4:52:47 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: garbageseeker

Just like the French...cowards....afraid of their own shadows...

What the heck are they even there for if not to disarm the enemy???

Oh yes, I forgot....they don't have a spine!!!


35 posted on 08/15/2006 5:36:08 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: garbageseeker
The "reload" is a piece of crap. Olmert should be defenestrated for accepting it.
36 posted on 08/15/2006 5:47:34 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: rightwingcrazy

This is new. The French are now surrendering before they even send an army.

Gotta love the frogs. Maybe Nazzy should think about declaring France the new Hezbollahstan and just move operations there.

At least you could get a decent danish and coffee there.


37 posted on 08/15/2006 6:18:34 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Kill all the lawyers? No, kill all the politicans.)
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To: D-fendr
The agreement will be broken of course, but Lebanon will have less than a leg to stand on to reclaim its victimhood. No one with any sense expected the agreement to end the war or the problem; if it brings the Lebanese to account for it, it will have accomplished some good.

I think that's the theory, but I'm not sure it works in practice. Hezbollah said it won't disarm, Lebanon has said it won't disarm Hezbollah, and the U.N. has said disarming Hezbollah is a matter for the Lebanese army, not UNIFIL. So it ain't going to happen.

And to top it off, Kofi Annan sent a letter to the Israelis saying that just because Hezbollah breaches the ceasefire by refusing to disarm does not give Israel the right to restart hostilities.

We, and the Israelis, were suckered. We figured that this resolution would make it clear who the good guys and bad guys were. We figured that a Hezbollah breach would give Israel the international green light to finish the job. But we were wrong. The whole ceasefire, and all of its terms, are bogus. Israel will withdraw, Hezbollah will reoccupy southern Lebanon, and the result will be the exact same as if Hezbollah had defeated Israel militarily and forced them out of Lebanon. An armed Hezbollah will be sitting on the border, and nobody, not the Israelis, not Lebanon, and not UNIFIL, will do a damn thing to stop them.

38 posted on 08/15/2006 6:25:10 AM PDT by XJarhead
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To: EQAndyBuzz
At least you could get a decent danish and coffee there.

Ah, ah, ahhh... Don't you mean a decent "flower of the Prophet Mohammed pastry" and coffee? *snort*

39 posted on 08/15/2006 6:25:59 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: XJarhead

This is new to me:

"Kofi Annan sent a letter to the Israelis saying that just because Hezbollah breaches the ceasefire by refusing to disarm does not give Israel the right to restart hostilities."

I hope Bolton puts No Sale to this, and I expect him to. It's absurd on its face.


40 posted on 08/15/2006 6:28:21 AM PDT by D-fendr
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