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Open source project adds "no military use" clause to the GPL
newsforge ^ | Monday August 14, 2006 | Tina Gasperson

Posted on 08/14/2006 7:13:01 PM PDT by nycoem

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To: El Gato
There are severe security problems with using open source software in military systems.

Fixed it for you. All software is potentially risky, but open source generally compares favorably to proprietary software in terms of security.

61 posted on 08/15/2006 12:11:54 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent
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To: antiRepublicrat
They can't without permission from the FSF, since the GPL is itself a copyrighted work. The FSF has already warned these guys they're violating the FSF's copyright.

Yeah, I caught that after I posted.

But that doesn't affect the rest of your valid point.

Thank you for the kind words. :)

62 posted on 08/15/2006 12:32:22 PM PDT by kevkrom (War is not about proportionality. Knitting is about proportionality. War is about winning.)
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To: nycoem

+1 digg

63 posted on 08/15/2006 12:56:53 PM PDT by gura
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To: antiRepublicrat; ShadowAce

You guys can keep defending liberal rights all you want, to abort babies, to burn flags, for homosexual marriage, etc, just don't expect me to be standing there beside you. Your problem with these particular idiots is not what they were trying to do, but only with how they attempted to accomplish it.


64 posted on 08/15/2006 2:33:59 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle
You guys can keep defending liberal rights all you want,

Do you realize the subject here is copyright, something clearly granted in the Constitution?

Your problem with these particular idiots is not what they were trying to do, but only with how they attempted to accomplish it.

Let's see, I used to be in the Army, in a nuclear program even, I worked for the Army for years afterwards, I've run open source software on Army computers in furtherance of the mission, and somehow I'd agree with an idiot pacifist who doesn't think the Army should be able to use his software?

You really are dense. The only thing I agree with is that the idiot has the right to do this, as granted through copyright law based on the Constitution's copyright clause. Of course that doesn't consider that he violated copyright by modifying the GPL, and probably violated copyright by distributing GPL software written by others under a different license without getting permission.

65 posted on 08/15/2006 2:47:47 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
I agree with is that the idiot has the right to do this

It's one thing to begrudginly admit liberals have the right to live out their insanity, it's another to so take their side in defense of their right to do so you become completely indistinguishable from them. In this case you call them idiots, but only because there is a flaw in their plan.

66 posted on 08/15/2006 2:56:53 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle

Let me get this right... you are saying that the author of a piece of software has absolutely no right to limit who he or she wishes it to be licensed?


67 posted on 08/15/2006 3:30:41 PM PDT by kevkrom (War is not about proportionality. Knitting is about proportionality. War is about winning.)
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To: MediaMole

Ten years or so ago surfing the internet it dawned upon me how insecure software and the internet was, and was doubly concerned because I knew our military was using "off the shelf or cots procurement strategy. The original article though, is ironic in that those guys are utilizing a DARPA born infrastructure - their heart might or might not be in the right place, but it's tough to see how it might work.
HAMS respect the shortwave bands because the FCC will throw your happy self into jail for running commercial enterprises.


68 posted on 08/15/2006 3:50:40 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Golden Eagle
to so take their side in defense of their right to do so you become completely indistinguishable from them

You have such an un-American position that I really am at a loss for words. I expect this at DU, not here.

69 posted on 08/15/2006 4:06:22 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: nycoem

Given the pacifist nature of the creaters, it shall henceforth be known as pussyware.


70 posted on 08/15/2006 4:10:38 PM PDT by Modok
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To: kevkrom

No, I'm saying true conservatives would never suppport leftists under the pretense of "protecting their rights". Which is nothing more than an obvious fact.


71 posted on 08/15/2006 6:43:16 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

The record clearly shows I constantly support America, and that you constantly argue with me in support of foreign products and liberals. A glance at your posting history is all that's necessary.


72 posted on 08/15/2006 6:49:13 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle

"You guys can keep defending liberal rights all you want, to abort babies,"

You're the only person here I've seen do that, when you went to bat for Planned Parenthood.

"to burn flags,"

Thread and post number?

"for homosexual marriage,"

Thread and post number?

"just don't expect me to be standing there beside you."

You got caught on the same side of the issue as your enemies. With nothing left to rant about, you set up the straw men and knock them over.

I unequivocally condemn any efforts to prohibit GPL software from being used for military purposes.


73 posted on 08/15/2006 6:59:51 PM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: Golden Eagle

"The record clearly shows I constantly support America, and that you constantly argue with me in support of foreign products and liberals."

You, on this very thread, condemned another poster for supporting the rights of Americans with which you don't agree. That's not supporting America, that's supporting an agenda. Don't think because you wrap yourself in the American flag while you do it makes it okay.


74 posted on 08/15/2006 7:05:02 PM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: FLAMING DEATH

I put the issues at the forefront, you guys put defending liberal's rights at the forefront. Simple as that.


75 posted on 08/15/2006 8:09:36 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle
No, I'm saying true conservatives would never suppport leftists under the pretense of "protecting their rights".

Don't lecture me on what a "true conservative" would do, and in the process implying that I am not one.

A true conservative such as myself can make the subtle distinction between what is legal (or in general, a right) and whether or not I agree with the action.

In this case, outside of the copyright violation issues regarding the GPL itself, the authors clearly can specify any restriction they want in whatever license (or licenses) they distribute their own work under. (They cannot, however, modify the existing license of GPL code they included from other sources.) Do I agree with what they are doing? Of course not -- they're being idiots, and for several reasons, some philosophical and others practical.

Now, from what I am reading of your responses, you would deny these people their legal right to release their software under their own terms simply because you disagree with them. That's not conservatism, that's authoritarianism.

Personally, I'd much rather let idiots be idiots, and let the natural consequences be their own punishment. And so it is happening -- they're being publicly lambasted by the very people you claim to hate on both the philosophical and practical fronts.

76 posted on 08/16/2006 5:02:44 AM PDT by kevkrom (War is not about proportionality. Knitting is about proportionality. War is about winning.)
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To: Golden Eagle

You defended Planned Parenthood and UN laws for the U.S. 'Nuff said.


77 posted on 08/16/2006 5:16:31 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: Golden Eagle
The record clearly shows I constantly support America, and that you constantly argue with me in support of foreign products and liberals.

As usual, you twist it. I do not support the strange opinions and speech of liberals, but I do support their right to hold those opinions and make their speeches. You may support America, but you definitely don't support American ideals, especially not the 1st Amendment.

78 posted on 08/16/2006 9:45:11 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: kevkrom
you would deny these people their legal right to release their software under their own terms

Nope, I would point out the fact they are leftists, and deny them any support whatsoever, just as I have done. For some reason, others race to their defense, in the name of civil rights.

79 posted on 08/16/2006 4:49:02 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: FLAMING DEATH
You defended Planned Parenthood and UN laws for the U.S.

I corrected your lies, like usual.

80 posted on 08/16/2006 4:52:10 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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