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U.S. govt gets giant cross in San Diego [with President Bush's signature...........]
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Posted on 08/14/2006 4:45:21 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

U.S. govt gets giant cross in San Diego

By ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Writer 7 minutes ago

A giant cross in San Diego that's been contested for 17 years by an atheist became the property of the federal government Monday with President Bush's signature.

Supporters hope the legislation transferring the 29-foot cross and war memorial it's a part of to the federal government will protect it for good. A series of court decisions have deemed the cross unconstitutional because it stands on public property.

"Just because something may have a religious connotation doesn't mean you destroy it and tear it down," said Rep. Brian Bilbray, R-Calif., after an Oval Office signing ceremony attended by other cross supporters and Republican House members from San Diego who sponsored the bill.

"It's a great victory for our veterans," said House Armed Services Committee Chairman Duncan Hunter, R-Calif.

But the legal fight that began in 1989 when atheist Philip Paulson sued San Diego over the cross is not played out yet.

Paulson's attorney, Jim McElroy, said he filed papers in federal court in San Diego last week to void the transfer and declare it unconstitutional.

"I don't think anybody really thinks the cross is going to remain on Mt. Soledad. It's been 17 years of litigation, and every court, every judge who's ever looked at it has ruled it's unconstitutional," McElroy said.

The bill signing "smacks of election-year politics," he said.

Paulson, a Vietnam War veteran, contends that the cross, dedicated in 1954 in honor of Korean War veterans, excludes veterans who are not Christian.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: billsigning; bush; churchandstate; cross; mtsoledad; warmemorial
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finally. Too bad Paulson you leftist (oh and your lawyer too).............
1 posted on 08/14/2006 4:45:22 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Good work.


2 posted on 08/14/2006 4:46:06 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Dear ACLU: Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.


3 posted on 08/14/2006 4:53:39 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Sub-Driver

What twists my shorts is why it even has to be moved. Don't the locals appreciate our military? Americans die protecting our country... (ending rant before I go ballistic).


4 posted on 08/14/2006 4:53:50 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: sgtbono2002

The ACLU needs to be brought up on RICO charges, if not treason.


5 posted on 08/14/2006 4:54:47 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Cobra64

The locals definitely wanted it to stay, but the atheists use the courts to do their evil work.


6 posted on 08/14/2006 4:55:27 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Sub-Driver

YAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY!!!


7 posted on 08/14/2006 4:55:41 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: Sub-Driver

Just another reason to appreciate President Bush. He may not be articulate, and his smirk is a little hard to take(my deceased younger brother had the same unfortunate habit), but I love that guy, just as I loved my brother.


8 posted on 08/14/2006 4:56:13 PM PDT by billhilly
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But the legal fight that began in 1989 when atheist Philip Paulson sued San Diego over the cross is not played out yet.

Paulson's attorney, Jim McElroy, said he filed papers in federal court in San Diego last week to void the transfer and declare it unconstitutional.

I think it is unconstitutional that ONE individual can find ONE tyrannical judge to agree with him and negate the rule of the elected leaders of the country, the other 299+ million citizens and 52 years of precedent.

9 posted on 08/14/2006 5:06:49 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Jay777; Oshkalaboomboom; South40; NormsRevenge; radar101; TheDon; Coleus; weegee; bmwcyle; ...

PING!!


10 posted on 08/14/2006 5:11:02 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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Paulson, a Vietnam War veteran, contends that the cross, dedicated in 1954 in honor of Korean War veterans, excludes veterans who are not Christian.

And no cross excludes us Christians.

11 posted on 08/14/2006 5:12:49 PM PDT by american_ranger
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To: Sub-Driver
Philip Paulson attempt to force the federal courts and the US government into deciding that this particular device is an authentic religious element violates my constitutional rights.

The government must act to protect me by putting Paulson where he can't harm me.

12 posted on 08/14/2006 5:15:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: AnnaZ
Is this your cross?
13 posted on 08/14/2006 5:18:25 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: pissant

I dont think the government has brought charges of Treason since the Rosenbergs were executed.

But I agree they need to start using it again.


14 posted on 08/14/2006 5:20:18 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: ChadGore
Is this your cross?

No, "mine" was on the L.A. county seal. Same crappy state, though... yuk yuk... which, fortunately, is no longer mine either.

;^)

15 posted on 08/14/2006 5:23:40 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I think so, Brain, but if we give peas a chance, won't the lima beans feel left out?)
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To: american_ranger
Vietnam War veteran,

I doubt it.

16 posted on 08/14/2006 5:24:36 PM PDT by chesty_puller (USMC 70-73 3MAF VN 70-71)
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To: AnnaZ

Hope all is well in TX :) Miss your AnnaZ videos.


17 posted on 08/14/2006 5:24:45 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: Cobra64
Don't the locals appreciate our military?

The locals were behind keeping the Cross 100%. We voted as such, to keep the Cross. One guy has been fighting this cross for 15 years and has the ACLU behind him. He even got a judge to ignore the will of the people down here.

18 posted on 08/14/2006 5:27:21 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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To: Sub-Driver

It's stuff like this that makes me feel a bit more understanding towards terrorists. If a similar situation were to arise in Iraq the attorney who keeps taking this to court would just disappear. If another lawyer took up the case, he's go bye-bye too. Eventually no lawyer would go near the case.
But we're too civilized for that sort of thing so we'll just keep going back to court to defend a losing cause.
Where's Lee Harvey Oswald now that we REALLY need him?


19 posted on 08/14/2006 5:35:40 PM PDT by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: AnnaZ

Looks like the ACLU was quite happy to leave the goat on the LA seal for the Mullah's use.


20 posted on 08/14/2006 5:40:25 PM PDT by muawiyah
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