1 posted on
08/13/2006 11:49:03 AM PDT by
neverdem
To: neverdem
I cannot read more at the NYT because THEY won't let me and I will NOT give the traitors my name. ;)
What was making her gain weight? Just give me a summary, please.
2 posted on
08/13/2006 11:52:16 AM PDT by
madison10
To: neverdem
"But if they watch their diet, and if they exercise, they can avoid it.
Brilliant!! /s
To: neverdem
The Discovery Channel actually has a show called "Super Obese" -- now what kind of name for a program is that? LOL.
5 posted on
08/13/2006 12:01:22 PM PDT by
jdm
To: neverdem
1. Oh how I hate the BMI! The MSM ought to kill that thing. I'm 6' tall, 210 pounds, and have flat abs... but I'm consdiered "overweight" by the BMI. I rode 92 miles yesterday on my bike. Lance Amrstrong and Dubyar are both considered overweight too.
2. We've all known for years that some people can eat everything and never gain a pound, while others seem to gain a pound for every french fry. We've thought it was genetic, or maybe metabolism in the past. If ulcers (long thought to be caused by stress) can be caused by little germs, why can't obesity?
6 posted on
08/13/2006 12:17:31 PM PDT by
TWohlford
To: neverdem
I remember a girl in high school that was 5'8" and about 275 lbs. At recess and lunch, all she had was a diet Mountain Dew. I remember wondering how many calories she'd have to have during breakfast and dinner to maintain that kind of weight on a teenager's metabolism.
7 posted on
08/13/2006 12:17:38 PM PDT by
cincinnati65
(Lucky participant in 189 different Nigerian business deals......still waiting on payment.)
To: neverdem
As a physician's assistant student at the University of Florida's Shands Teaching Hospital in 1975 I was very involved in their program of doing obesity bypasses. Most of our patients weight in at over 600 lbs. I saw them when they first applied to the program, pre-op, in surgery, post-op and in the follow-up clinic. There seemed to be no rhyme or reason for the ones who lost weight after surgery and the ones who either didn't lose weight or actually gained weight. I was abundantly clear to those of us who dealt with these people on a day-to-day basis that their obesity was not due solely to an overabundance of calories. Dr. Woodward, the attending surgeon for the program, was convinced these people's bodies thought they were doing the patient a favor by being able to store more fat per calorie taken in than 'normal' people, and that their bodies felt this ability was going to help these people survive a coming Winter. Most of these patients had been on diets their entire lives, some of them having lost up to 1100 pounds over the years and gained that, and frequently many more pounds, back after each diet.
Woodward was convinced that we had yet to find the root cause for these people's ability to use calories so sparingly and store the rest for hard times.
They were the most appreciative patients I ever worked with. Every one of the was thankful to find medical personnel who didn't simply write them off as lacking will power to control their appetite.
I take it from this article that we've not gotten much closer to solving the mystery in the 30 years since I was a part of the search.
Very sad. I am overweight, but I am not one of those who is morbidly obese, that is their weight is a threat to their life. I am overweight because I eat too much and exercise too little. That can not be said for many of the patients who become candidates for an obesity bypass.
To: neverdem
Don't eat very much, and weigh yourself every day. That's it, I'm writing a diet book. I'm tired of working every day, and I want to be amazingly rich. My book will be called, "Don't eat much and weigh yourself every day." Who wants to publish my book? I lost 100 pounds, I have great before and after pictures, and I'm ready to move on this.
21 posted on
08/13/2006 1:17:34 PM PDT by
mysterio
To: neverdem
22 posted on
08/13/2006 1:23:13 PM PDT by
larryjohnson
(FReepersonaltrainer)
To: neverdem
link has the whole thing. The liver function to process bad stuff was touched on too briefly, as was metabolism.
30 posted on
08/13/2006 2:48:24 PM PDT by
larryjohnson
(FReepersonaltrainer)
To: neverdem
Every study I've seen where they lock up fat people who "just can't lose weight" and control their caloric intake shows that they're just eating too much when left to their own devices.
32 posted on
08/13/2006 4:55:31 PM PDT by
gura
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33 posted on
08/13/2006 6:45:03 PM PDT by
neverdem
(May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
To: neverdem
Squats, deadlifts, bench. And cardio. Few simple carbs overall, and no carbs after 5 pm. Eat small, more frequent portions that are balanced. Take fish oil, green tea extract...
I lost 40 pounds. Now my bf% is 13. And I bench more than I weigh.
I also do about an hour of cardio every day.
THIS IS A GREAT THREAD.
36 posted on
08/13/2006 7:12:49 PM PDT by
gaijin
To: neverdem
They opened the catalogue of a laboratory-supply company to see which one of the 50 human adenoviruses they should order.
"I'd like to say we chose the virus out of some wisdom, out of some belief that it was similar in important ways to SMAM-1," Dhurandhar said. But really, he admitted, it was dumb luck that the adenovirus they started with, Ad-36, turned out to be so fattening.
By this time, several pathogens had already been shown to cause obesity in laboratory animals. With Ad-36, Dhurandhar and Atkinson began by squirting the virus up the nostrils of a series of lab animals -- chickens, rats, marmosets -- and in every species the infected animals got fat.
"The marmosets were most dramatic," Atkinson recalled. By seven months after infection, he said, 100 percent of them became obese. Subsequently, Atkinson's group and another in England conducted similar research using other strains of human adenovirus. The British group found that one strain, Ad-5, caused obesity in mice; the Wisconsin group found the same thing with Ad-37 and chickens. Two other strains, Ad-2 and Ad-31, failed to cause obesity.
So how do we undo this damage for obese people?
42 posted on
08/15/2006 5:18:36 AM PDT by
TaxRelief
(Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
To: neverdem
Just a thought:
The obesity rise mirrors the reduction in the use of that noted appetite suppressant, tobacco...
51 posted on
09/05/2006 9:57:31 PM PDT by
null and void
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