British Muslims anxious about plot news

AP via Yahoo! News ^ | Thu Aug 10, 2006 | BETH GARDINER

[lizol]

British Muslims anxious about plot news

By BETH GARDINER, Associated Press Writer

Thu Aug 10, 3:31 PM ET

LONDON - News of a thwarted plot to down trans-Atlantic airliners sent a shiver of anxiety through Britain's Muslim community Thursday.

Muslim men accustomed to nervous looks from passers-by after last year's transit bombings noticed they were attracting them again. Some said they worried about a spike in hate crimes and job discrimination.

There was no confirmed word about the religious or ethnic background of those arrested, although a top French official described them as originating from predominantly Muslim Pakistan. Police said only that they were working with Britain's large South Asian community.

Three of the four suicide bombers who struck London's transit system in July 2005 were Britons of Pakistani origin, and many Muslims feared their community would be held responsible this time.

Monirul Sardar, 33, said that after the transit bombings and the Sept. 11 attacks on America, a neighbor left duck droppings on his parked car.

"Tonight I've got to watch out," he said.

Sardar, a Briton of Bangladeshi origin who runs an east London travel agency, said he'd noticed his bushy beard drawing stares after every major terror attack in recent years.

"It's started up again," he said. "People are afraid of me, mostly. ... If it's an old man, a lady in a hijab (head covering), they'll pick on them."

Harris Bokhari, a spokesman for the Muslim Association of Britain, said the group was asking mosques to urge worshippers to report any racial attacks.

But he said Muslims had demonstrated after the Sept. 11 attacks and the London bombings that they would not let such trouble stop them from participating in British life.

The Muslim community's relationship with police has been fraught in recent months, and some said they were waiting to see what evidence police would produce of the alleged bomb plot.

"They've arrested people, but let's see what they find from them," said Maj Ali, 27, who works at a northeast London restaurant near a home police were searching as part of their terror investigation.

"They didn't find nothing," he recalled of a June raid in which officers shot a man in the shoulder in his east London home during a search for the makings of a chemical bomb.

The man and his brother were arrested but later freed without charge. That raid and the fatal subway shooting last year of an innocent Brazilian man mistaken for a terrorist infuriated many Muslims.

"Was this (airline bomb plot) information really accurate or not from the police in terms of its intelligence?" Bokhari asked. "We need to be aware how these people were arrested."

Near the East London Mosque in the capital's Whitechapel neighborhood, home to a large Muslim population, several people said they feared the terror plot allegations might spark fresh antagonism against them.

"People forget things really easily," Sardar said. "This brings it all back again."

[lizol]

A good answer to this banner would be - "as soon as you stop terrorizing ours".

This is a strange thing about it.

A week ago I came back from my vacation. First I spent a week travelling around Israel, and then another week in a resort in Sharm El Sheikh, Egypt.

The resort was full of people from all over Europe, but I think the biggest group of guests were from UK.
There were also some local guests, I mean Arabs.

The Arab women pretty often had their heads covered, but they looked more or less like on this picture.

Only once I saw a woman dressing like on the first photo, with the banner - all over in black, that one could see only her eyes (imagine - in a vacation resort, by the pool, among other people wearing swimming suits :-))).
Her husband also looked like some kind of imam - a characteristic hat, looooong beard, and a white, ankle-long wide galabiya.
I was absolutely positive, the were Egyptians.
But one day, during the lunch they took a table right next to mine.

And then I realized, that they were speaking to each other ... perfect English, without any sign of an Arab accent. If I didn't see them, having in mind their voices and acccent only, I'd think, they were typical Brits.

I was really astonished.

It really looked, like they wanted to be "more muslim" than any Arab present there.

[DesiCoderExtreme]

I know from FIRST HAND experience that the UK is overrun with Muslims. Due to their lower position in the socio-economic ladder (lower than afro/Caribbeans) they have compensated by taking control of LOCAL political institutions. This is where the real POWER lies. Since the early 90's they have control of the local governments in major power centers like London, Slough, Birmingham, Bradford, Leeds and Manchester.

Now they control local government they control finances and strongly influence local industry and economic structures even though not contributing DIRECTLY to the resource generation system.

People think that France will be the first country to turn ISLAMIC but they dont understand that the French elite have successfully excluded the Islamic fundamentalists from both their political and governmental structures (hence the recent rioting).

What we are witnessing in the UK is the beginning of the end as emboldened Muslims commence the conversion of the power-structures of the UK from secular-Christian into ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALIST.

[BW2221]

"Monirul Sardar, 33, said that after the transit bombings and the Sept. 11 attacks on America, a neighbor left duck droppings on his parked car."

Was the neighbor's last name Mallard? Talk about paranoia or fake paranoia. Once again, Muslims do something wrong and they point the finger at others.

[popdonnelly]

Oh, darn! Muslims have to worry about suspicious looks, and infidels have to worry about getting blown up or burned to death! It's such an unfair World!

[Bigg Red]

Some said they worried about a spike in hate crimes and job discrimination.

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Straight from the playbook. Evidence of hate crimes and job discrimination previously, please, Amin? What? You don't have any? Really? I am so shocked.

[Bigg Red]

Oh, darn! Muslims have to worry about suspicious looks, and infidels have to worry about getting blown up or burned to death! It's such an unfair World!

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Perfect summary!

[loreldan]

You may have something there. I know some people that are descended from immigrants from other countries. I also know people that live in those same other countries. Sometimes the descendants are more "ethnic" than the actual foreigners. Maybe they feel defensive and are prouder of their heritage than the people than the people that actually live there.

I think for some descendants of immigrants they hear about the good old days from their parents, grandparents, etc. So in their mind the "grass is greener" in the old country, so they are more apt to proudly proclaim/display their ethnicity. When you actually go over there the residents are more and more trying to appear westernized.

[claudiustg]

Why have the Brits done this? Their unemployment rate has always been relatively high. Did they just go soft in the head?

[paul51]

Muslim men accustomed to nervous looks from passers-by after last year's transit bombings

That's not nervousness. It's disgust.

[sheik yerbouty]

Maybe they were Shi'ite..

[ExTexasRedhead]

There's lots of construction work in Lebanon for all the unemployed Muzzies. They can all leave England to find work in the Middle East (their homeland that they love so much).

[steve-b]

Well, if you don't want the police around, then you'll just have to take out your own trash for them.

[Publius6961]

There was no confirmed word about the religious or ethnic background of those arrested, although ...

Oh really? To be a spokesman for official authority one must be either brain-dead, or pretend to be?

EPISCOPALIANS?

[Publius6961]

See post #59

I guess I have yet to figure out a direct link to a specific post...

[Senator Goldwater]

"Muslim men accustomed to nervous looks from passers-by after last year's transit bombings"

That's not nervousness. It's disgust.

Typical of the media to miss this point.

[sten]

Why have the Brits done this? Their unemployment rate has always been relatively high. Did they just go soft in the head?

No. It is a simple pattern that has also shown itself in the US, but not with ME types. Basically, when a person of (pick your group) gets hired into a position of authority responible for hiring, they make sure to only hire people from their group.

In the US, it's the indians only hiring other indians in the IT and health-care sector. In Britian, since the goal to convert Britian to Islam, they are after the political infrastructure.

[taxesareforever]

Profiling. YESSSSSS!

[Bigg Red]

There's lots of construction work in Lebanon for all the unemployed Muzzies. They can all leave England to find work in the Middle East (their homeland that they love so much).

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Good one. I nominate you as the one to head the advertising campaign to encourage them to sign up for the employment. Of course, why work at all when you have an accommodating new country that takes care of all of your creature comforts?

[rod1]

What they do not seem to fear enough is having murderers among them.

[DustyMoment]

I'd like to clarify a misperception that the MSM promotes - there is NO SUCH THING as a British muslim, or an American muslim, a German muslim, French muslim, etc., etc., etc. There are muslims. Their allegiances are to Islam first and foremost.

Calling ANY of them British or American or whatever suggests that they have some allegiance or association with those countries - they don't. They will NEVER fight to defend any of the western countries in which they live against the threat of Islam and Islamic terrorism. When the chips are down, they will work to defeat freedom and independence from ANY religion.

NEVER give any of them the benefit of the doubt - they are muslims and they intend to eradicate every other religion and way of life from this earth.