Posted on 08/11/2006 11:31:16 AM PDT by madprof98
Umm, not to be overly contrarian here, but there was no pregnancy aborted in this article. There was birth control. Is recreational sex between married couples now a bad thing? Must all sexual relations between married couples now be specifically to have children?
I do not see this ire directed at those who wear condoms, or who use other forms of birth control. Why this?
These are the same people who enthusiastically support politicians who tell us how much water we can have in our toilets, where and how much we can smoke, etc. Some "choice."
I practice NFP. Maybe this author should consider that and not look on fertility with such hatred. This article is so sad on so many levels :(
"My wife and I are stretched thin with two kids and two jobs, with school, rent, clothing, health insurance, time. Yet more to the point, we love our family as it is, love the balance among the four of us, the dynamic, the emotional interplay."
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So SELFISH and SELFCENTERED it's stunning.
Put bluntly... we're selfish. The notion that another child in a family that has only two is a stretch on ones financial or emotional well being is absolute nonsense. Your parents raised typically 4.. and your grandparents 6 or 7... What an idiotic argument.
If you believe life begins at conception, plan B is murder... if you don't that's fine you are welcome to that belief... but to come here and basically portray yourself as believing life begins at conception, but I'm going to use the morning after pill because I'm being responsible.. you are an abject idiot.
God said be fruitful and multiply. Nothing wrong with having an ooops baby. Better having an oops baby than aborting a newly conceived life.
So that's what they call it.
This reminds me of a time I argued with a stupid leftist. She was whining that the state legislature was considering pulling public funding for condom distribution at Planned Parenthood and this was bad for college students. I mentioned she try personal responsibility when it came to acquiring condoms instead of relying on the taxpayer to buy them for her. She didn't understand. Liberals don't understand. Liberals seem to have fundamental problems grasping basic concepts such as theft, personal responsibility, freedom, liberty, etc.
At the core of mdern birth control is hatred for women, esp. woman's fertility. There's never been a male drug for fertility EVER because researchers were worried about shrinking male testicles. As if a little shrinkage is worse than months of bad periods and hormnal upheaval. This guy is crazy!
Of course not. But if this guy in his 40s knew he didn't want anymore children then he should have been snipped before this happened. Then he wouldn't have to worry whether it was an abortion or not...not that this writer seemed to care.
Plan B doesn't work if you are already pregnant. It is not an abortion.
I am not aware of God prohibiting recreational sex between married couples.
Well said.
These sons of bi*ches.
I just had a similar experience. I already have a 17yr old, and a 4 yr old.
My wife comes up and tells me she's pregnant, even though she's been on birth control. (She admitted forgetting to take it a "few" times, thanks)
The LAST thing in the world I wanted at 40 yrs old was another child. But, Abortion? Not possible. Not even a discussion.
We'll just be more careful next time..But this time, we got a baby on the way and that's that. We'll just stretch things a little thinner. A little less foolish spending, no new cars etc. We'll manage, and we'll love the daylights out of our newest addition. To me, that's the only choice aside from giving ones child up for adoption (which I couldn't do, but the people in the story should've thought about)
I don't understand how people can justify their own selfishness through the murder of an innocent baby, and I never will...and I'm not even a churchgoer.
Umm where did I say God prevented a couple from having sex? BTW, what's the difference? Is is? Sex is sex. Is there a non-recreational sex that isn't fun? Sheesh. Birth control pills kill a woman's hormones and is poison for her body. Those are the facts!
I suggest you consider a vasectomy, if you're done having children...
You didn't say, nor did I attribute those words to you. Calm yourself a tad.
But now I do understand where you are coming from a bit better, you object to birth control of any variety. I take no issue with that, I disagree , but won't certainly slam you for your beliefs. I wonder if I'll be accorded the same courtesy.
You're correct, of course. But at least until the baby is born, I'm going to party on.
After that, snip snip snip.
How sad, a husband and wife have to feel fear that they might make a baby. What a statement about married life and the current value of children in our society.
Interesting analogy. I looked up Molech on the net and found this little tidbit -It's just a theory, and I don't know how true it is, but here it is:
In 1921 Otto Eissfeldt, excavating in Carthage, discovered inscriptions with the word mlk which in the context meant neither 'king' nor the name of any god. He concluded that it was instead a term for a particular kind of sacrifice, one which at least in some cases involved human sacrifice. A relief was found showing a priest holding a child. Also uncovered was a sanctuary to the goddess Tanit comprising a cemetery with thousands of burned bodies of animal and of human infants, dating from the 8th century BC down to the destruction of Carthage in 146 BC. Eissfeldt identified the site as a tophet, using a Hebrew word of previously unknown meaning connected to the burning in some Biblical passages. Most of the children's bodies appeared to be those of newborns, but some were older, up to about six years of age.
Eissfeldt further concluded that the Hebrew writings were not talking about a god Moloch at all, but about the molk or mulk sacrifice, that the abomination was not in worshipping a god Molech who demanded children be sacrificed to him, but in the practice of sacrificing human children as a molk. Hebrews were strongly opposed to sacrificing first-born children as a molk to Yahweh himself. The practice may have been conducted by their neighbors in Canaan. The relevant Scriptural passages depict Yahweh condemning such practices in harsh terms. Hebrews who made such a sacrifice were executed by stoning. Any who knew about such a sacrifice, and did not act to prevent it, were ejected from the community along with their family.
I don't care what you believe. I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm dealing with facts of artifical birth control.
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