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Army facing 'most intense fighting in half a century' [British troops in Afghanistan]
The Scotsman ^ | 8/11/06 | CAROLINE GAMMELL IN KABUL AND GAVIN CORDON

Posted on 08/10/2006 4:58:27 PM PDT by LibWhacker

BRITISH troops in Afghanistan are engaged in some of the most intense and prolonged fighting seen by the army for half a century, a senior commander said yesterday.

Some UK troops will be withdrawn from parts of the lawless Helmand province to be replaced by soldiers from the Afghan army, Lieutenant-General David Richards, the British commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, said.

"This sort of thing hasn't really happened so consistently, I don't think, since the Korean War or the Second World War," he said. "It happened for periods in the Falklands, obviously, and it happened for short periods in the Gulf on both occasions. But this is persistent, low-level, dirty fighting."

His comments came as a senior British source said that between 40-50,000 NATO forces would be needed to control Taleban fighters in Helmand.

The number far exceeds the 4,500 UK troops in the region and their NATO allies.

But the source insisted it was never the intention to put international troops in every village in the province, but rather to disrupt Taleban influence and encourage stability in rural areas.

"There is absolutely no way that we can garrison Helmand with 4,500 troops," the source said. "If NATO was going to garrison Helmand and carry out that sort of operation, heaven knows how many troops you would need - 40-50,000. But we wouldn't even think about that."

British forces in Afghanistan - which were recently swelled by 1,000 additions - have been surprised by the strength of the Taleban resistance.

They have found themselves facing guerrilla-style tactics rather than terrorist attacks.

Groups of Taleban fighters, no more than 15 or 20 in number, are attacking international forces in the north of the province over an extended period of time before dispersing and reforming.

British and international forces had expected them to rely on bombings and improvised explosive devices by the side of the road.

"That is the way they have chosen to operate. We are slightly surprised," the source said. "They will have taken higher casualties than they might have expected.

"In some ways, they are playing into our hands. It is unlikely they can sustain this tempo for too long."

Hundreds of Taleban are believed to have died in the conflict, but the army is reluctant to put an exact figure on it.

Ten British soldiers have died in the past two months as a result of hostile action in Afghanistan.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; army; britain; century; facing; fighting; half; helmand; intense; taleban; taliban; uk

1 posted on 08/10/2006 4:58:28 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Army facing 'most intense fighting in half a century'

Well no kidding! The only other semi-considerable forces they've gone up against in the last half-century (note that Korea is now past half-century) have been the Argentines who somehow managed to lose to them.


2 posted on 08/10/2006 5:19:12 PM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus
Is it just me or is it lost on all of these people, just as we had to put millions of troops in the field to defeat the Nazis we may have to do something on a similar but smaller scale to defeat the islamopignazis?

If the free work had any balls there would be 500,000 troops rolling thru Afganistan, another 500,000 in Iraq and maybe 200,000 in Lebonon. Sure the Muzzie would scream it was a war againts all of Islam but haven't they already declared war on non-muslims? OK so what are we waiting for?

3 posted on 08/10/2006 6:21:58 PM PDT by marlon
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To: LibWhacker

Don't we make MOABs anymore?


4 posted on 08/10/2006 6:22:44 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Fitzcarraldo
We have so much power at our disposal and we won't use it.

What a way to fight a war.

5 posted on 08/10/2006 6:46:11 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus

How about their losses in Ireland? They weren't small and IIRC they did use the regular army there.


6 posted on 08/10/2006 8:30:09 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus

Malaya,Borneo,Aden,Cyprus,South Arabia,Northern Ireland,the Gulf War,Kenya...

Not exactly a sunday stroll in the park mate.

And the British victorious in every one of those campaigns,btw.


7 posted on 08/12/2006 4:11:17 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: marlon

Yeah stick that in your pipe and smoke it!


8 posted on 08/12/2006 10:53:30 AM PDT by MARETHLINE
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To: marlon

It is NOT just you. NATO has the money and people - it only lacks will.


9 posted on 08/12/2006 11:00:53 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet
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