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To: Republicain

This raises the fascinating (for historians 500 years from now) but disturbing (for those of us in the here and now) question of whether a bunch of Turks, Moroccans, Indonesians and Africans can get along in Amsterdam without the presence of any Dutch. Even apart from the Eurabia thesis, the tremendous diversity in these cities, which may not even include in any great numbers the people whose ancestors created the famous Dutch tolerance to begin with, is to put it mildly a problem in its own right.


12 posted on 08/04/2006 2:29:50 PM PDT by untenured
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To: untenured
I think, it's clearly a question of integration. If these immigrants wish and are able to become true Dutch citizens (whatever their religious and cultural background) then Dutch society will be able to absorb this new population. For instance, France has always been a country of immigration and during the last century, has been able to absorb millions of immigrants from Russia, Poland, Belgium, Portugal, Spain, Italy... And now they are plain french citizens, with no doubt.

With the actual immigrants, and their children, it seems that the integration's machinery is broken. They keep a strong links with their original countries (via satelite TVs, internet, summer holidays in Algeria or Morocco...) and, a part of them tend to partly or totally reject the french and european values. And that is really alarming.

14 posted on 08/04/2006 2:51:41 PM PDT by Republicain
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