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Suspect in Jewish Federation shootings recently baptized
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER ^ | Monday, July 31, 2006 | SCOTT GUITERREZ

Posted on 07/31/2006 7:44:21 AM PDT by Sopater

RICHLAND -- Naveed Haq, now widely portrayed as a Muslim American so angry at Israel that he shot up a Jewish charity in Seattle, had recently converted to Christianity. His conversion is perhaps the most startling contradiction in a puzzling life.

He had a degree in electrical engineering and was the son of a successful engineer. But he couldn't hold a job and recently worked as a security guard and retail clerk in the Seattle area.

His father was a founding member of the Islamic center here. But the son was rarely seen at a local mosque for more than 10 years.

Haq, 30, told a ministry leader that he saw too much anger in Islam and wanted to find a new beginning in Christianity. He converted to Christianity, but, as with many other endeavors in his life, drifted away from the faith.

Acquaintances said he never seemed to be the fanatic religious extremist he played out on Friday. Instead some think his anger was really the result of problems in his personal and professional life.

"Naveed had the profile of the guy who just couldn't get things together," said Erik Neilsen, a Richland resident who let Haq live with him for three months in 2004. Neilsen said he thinks several problems compounded for Haq, and he just exploded.

"I wish I could have done something about it. I look back in retrospect and say 'Is there anything I could have done?' "

Last winter, Haq began attending a weekly men's group meeting at the home of a men's ministry leader with the Word of Faith Center, a non-denominational, evangelical church in Kennewick.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.nwsource.com ...


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1 posted on 07/31/2006 7:44:22 AM PDT by Sopater
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To: Sopater

It is called the old dope fiend move to fool people and give the enemedia cover


2 posted on 07/31/2006 7:47:46 AM PDT by italianquaker (Democrats and media can't win elections at least they can win their phony polls.)
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To: Sopater
A guy with an electrical engineering degree working as a security guard?

I smell an insanity defense in this case.

3 posted on 07/31/2006 7:47:57 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Sopater
Suspect in Jewish Federation shootings recently baptized

Guess it didn't take.

4 posted on 07/31/2006 7:48:30 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

That is one of the worst things about Islam. It threatens horrible things to those who convert, but promises all sins forgiven if one goes Jihad.

It encourages the worst possible acts.


5 posted on 07/31/2006 7:50:33 AM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: Sopater

"Taqqiya"


6 posted on 07/31/2006 7:56:35 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Sopater
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7 posted on 07/31/2006 7:57:08 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | Appeasement only reinforces bad behavior)
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To: Sopater

The Jew hatred that was bred into him from the time he was old enough to talk obviously wasn't washed away.

He could leave Islam, because it placed restrictions on him, apparently, but the Jew hatred stayed with him.


8 posted on 07/31/2006 7:57:24 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Sopater
had recently converted to Christianity

Buyer's remorse?

9 posted on 07/31/2006 7:58:20 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: Sopater
Well all I have to say is that I was baptized once.

Don't ever call me a good Christian. At best I'm a struggling one, more like a backslider with many vices.

Add in his muslim background and what he said? Pfffftzzztd.
10 posted on 07/31/2006 7:58:53 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Sharia. Coming to a town near you.)
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Haq, 30, told a ministry leader that he saw too much anger in Islam and wanted to find a new beginning in Christianity.

Too bad he failed.

11 posted on 07/31/2006 8:00:01 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: Sopater
I read this and I see something missing. The whole damn piece is about a muzzie terrorist who's background I couldnn't give a $hit about because I've heard it all before. "He's bi-polar, he could not find a job, his parents suck, his parents so-called religion certainly sucks, he wets his bed, he can't get chicks, his penis is an inch long, blah, blah, blah". All these thing about him I don't care about but here they are written about it in great detail. As if this stuff matters. What matters, or WHO matters that I'm not seeing being written about here? Huh? Who is not mentioned? No a word, not even a nod, not important! Who is that? Pamela Waechter that's who!


12 posted on 07/31/2006 8:11:27 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (You! Shake your junk!)
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To: Sopater
What is the meaning of kitman?

In reality, the word kitman comes from the verb katama, which means to hide, to conceal.

As it appears from the different English equivalents of the word, it touches on so many aspects - some of which are good and others are bad.

Starting with the good aspects, we can say that a good type of kitman (concealment or hiding) is when you hide things still in process till they are complete. In our life, we may meet people who look with a malevolent eye to what we have, who are jealous that we have this and that, who are envious that we are blessed with this and that. Driven by their envy, hatred and dark intentions, they may plot for us or weave some traps. In order to be saved from their traps, we should keep hush-hush on things that are still in preparation. To this type of hiding, kitman is the best policy. In this regard, the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, says in the hadith: “Seek fulfillment for things you want to finish inkitman.”

He himself gave the best example of such a type in the early days of Islam. When the number of Muslims was still small and the community was still weak, there was a big need for concealment or secret call (kitman) so as to save the cause of da`wah (inviting people to Islam) from the fierce enemies.

13 posted on 07/31/2006 8:12:15 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 35-38)
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To: Sopater

So then why pray tell did he announce he was a Muslim when entering the building?


14 posted on 07/31/2006 8:18:27 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: expatpat

Nope.

Still Muslim.

Don't forget that a true muslim can 'convert' to anything that advances the cause of the radicals as long as his 'heart' is still Muslim.

In this case. Converting to 'christianity' is more like swearing an oath on the bible with one hand, while you have your fingers crossed on the other.


15 posted on 07/31/2006 8:54:42 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Sopater

Did he convert from Islam to one of the Jew-hating Christian sects?


16 posted on 07/31/2006 9:45:52 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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