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Plans tackle immigrant bill impasse
Dallas Morning News ^ | 7/25/2006 | Michelle Middlestadt

Posted on 07/25/2006 9:23:38 AM PDT by sinkspur

WASHINGTON – With Congress at a stalemate over immigration, Texas' two senators took different tacks this week in hopes of breaking the logjam and getting a bill to President Bush's desk.

Sen. John Cornyn and fellow Republican Jon Kyl of Arizona on Monday urged the president to make a bold move and demand that Congress immediately free up nearly $4 billion for hundreds of Border Patrol agents, immigration inspectors and border fencing.

Doing so, they said, will convince Americans that the federal government is serious about enforcing immigration law – and could increase support for a broader bill that includes a temporary worker program.

"What we are offering today is what I believe is the last best hope for a comprehensive immigration reform to pass before the end of the year," Mr. Cornyn said at a news conference.

His fellow Texas Republican, Kay Bailey Hutchison, is moving on another track.

Ms. Hutchison today will publicly ally herself with leading House conservative Mike Pence, whose immigration plan has been described as a possible compromise palatable to both the House and Senate.

Although both chambers agree on the need for increased immigration enforcement, they part company over what to do with the nation's estimated 12 million illegal immigrants. The House, in legislation it approved in December, offered no deal for illegal immigrants or foreign workers seeking to come in the future.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; hutchisonamendment; immigrantlist; immigration; johncornyn; kaybaileyhutchison; michellemalkin; mikepence; texas
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1 posted on 07/25/2006 9:23:40 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Doing so, they said, will convince Americans that the federal government is serious about enforcing immigration law – and could increase support for a broader bill that includes a temporary worker program

Won't convince me at all..freeing up the money is one thing, using it to secure the borders and deport illegals is quite another.

2 posted on 07/25/2006 9:26:30 AM PDT by PattonFan
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To: sinkspur
Yeh, good luck on that.

The vast majority of our politicians just don't cars.

If they were serious they would have done something about four years ago.
As it is, Amexico is looking more and more like a reality.

3 posted on 07/25/2006 9:28:33 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: sinkspur
Sen. John Cornyn and fellow Republican Jon Kyl of Arizona on Monday urged the president to make a bold move and demand that Congress immediately free up nearly $4 billion for hundreds of Border Patrol agents, immigration inspectors and border fencing.

Including the money for fencing that the Senate voted down after approving hundreds of miles of fencing? Methinks the Senate should start with that detail and THEN go forward.

4 posted on 07/25/2006 9:30:41 AM PDT by dirtboy (Glad to see the ink was still working in Bush's veto pen, now that he wisely used it on this bill)
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To: sinkspur

"Doing so, they said, will convince Americans that the federal government is serious about enforcing immigration law – and could increase support for a broader bill that includes a temporary worker program. "

guess again.


5 posted on 07/25/2006 9:48:48 AM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: Kimberly GG

A guest worker program is inevitable, via the Pence plan or something like it. You may as well resign yourself to that fact.


6 posted on 07/25/2006 9:50:05 AM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur

Yes, and the Israeli's might as well resign themselves to being attacked indefinitely by Hezbollah, lower arms, and losing more and more land in the process until they are run out of the middle east.

Here are the two choices.

Give up on amnesty.

Or resign yourself to the fact you will be fought on this indefinitely.

No conservative is going to accept what is wrong, win or lose, and just "take it".

I don't know what will happen, neither do you. But I know what will happen if I, or any conservative, allows themselves to be convinced the fight isn't worth it. That's a tactic the other side uses, generally when they are facing stiff opposition to their goals. Which tells me we still have a fighting chance to sink amnesty. The fact it isn't law yet when they intended it be so in the spring tells me we've at least drawn some blood. I'll take that inspiration to do the opposite of what you wish and continue fighting against amnesty.


7 posted on 07/25/2006 10:00:06 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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"The president's commitment to beefing up border security is real, and he's put the money where his words are," she said.

Sure. And he's got 6 DAYS to have 6,000 NG 'ON THE BORDER' providing backup for BP, not 'on their way', not 'committed', not 'deployed', not 'somewhere in the border states', not 'in training', etc.

6 DAYS and counting.


8 posted on 07/25/2006 10:00:40 AM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: Soul Seeker
No conservative is going to accept what is wrong, win or lose, and just "take it".

Most will. Why? Abortion, Stem Cell Research, and Gay Marriage.

9 posted on 07/25/2006 10:05:26 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: sinkspur

"A guest worker program is inevitable, via the Pence plan or something like it. You may as well resign yourself to that fact."

lol OK. Then, likewise, you may as well resign yourself to the fact that in exchange for the cheap labor you're so desparately trying to keep, the house, senate and presidency will all be lost to the Democrats. Ironically, you have no one but party divider Bush to blame.


10 posted on 07/25/2006 10:11:56 AM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: sinkspur

No an amnesty is not inevitable. That is why I keep fighting against it. So far I have won.


11 posted on 07/25/2006 10:14:33 AM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Kimberly GG
lol OK. Then, likewise, you may as well resign yourself to the fact that in exchange for the cheap labor you're so desparately trying to keep, the house, senate and presidency will all be lost to the Democrats.

I don't believe that for a minute.

You think no bill is a winner for the GOP, but the polling is saying something entirely different. If Frist and Hastert push for a bill, it's because that's what the country wants, no matter what the fringers say.

12 posted on 07/25/2006 10:17:15 AM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Hydroshock

Guest worker program. Nobody is talking about amnesty with the Pence plan except the alarmist fringers.


13 posted on 07/25/2006 10:18:05 AM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur

A rose by another name would whither and die just as quickly. It is an amnesty and I will do what ever I can to oppose it and see that the illegal invaders here are deported.


14 posted on 07/25/2006 10:20:07 AM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: sinkspur

http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/back1201.html

"fringers"? LOL


15 posted on 07/25/2006 10:20:57 AM PDT by tumblindice (I been berry busy knitting kitten britches)
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To: tumblindice
That Zogby poll is what is known as an "outlier." IOW, no other poll comes up with the same results, which means it was flawed, or slanted.

I opt for the latter, since the CIS is an ancillary of FAIR, which opposes all immigration, legal and illegal.

16 posted on 07/25/2006 10:23:38 AM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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I suppose if it doesn't support your position then it must be fatally flawed.
Note that poll was five years ago, before George and Vincent started pushing their dog and burro act.
I suspect you are right and those figures have changed, with even more (Americans) opposed today . . . the "fringe", as you put it.


17 posted on 07/25/2006 10:27:33 AM PDT by tumblindice (I been berry busy knitting kitten britches)
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To: Hydroshock; sinkspur
No an amnesty is not inevitable. That is why I keep fighting against it. So far I have won.

That is important to keep in mind. The anti-immigration pendulum is swinging, but it swings slowly. Two years ago, the Senate immigration bill would have passed handily. Now it is stuck. In a few more years, nobody but far-left fringe will want to be associated with amnesty and guest worker programs. In a few more election cycles, the door will finall be slammed shut on out-of-control Third World immigration and the country will spend decades trying to assimilate the tens of millions we've already let in.

Thank you and God bless, Hydroshock, and all the others who have been toiling for years trying to stop America from committing suicide.

18 posted on 07/25/2006 10:32:38 AM PDT by AppleButter
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To: AppleButter

You are welcome.


19 posted on 07/25/2006 10:45:47 AM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: sinkspur
A guest worker program is inevitable,

I've got no problem with a guest worker program, as long as it does not include those illegals currently here.

via the Pence plan or something like it.

Pence's plan rewards criminal aliens. It's not a plan, it's amnesty.

20 posted on 07/25/2006 10:46:26 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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