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Surgical Preparation For Organ Donation For Non-Brain Dead Patients?: Australia
LifeSiteNews ^ | 7/13/06 | Hilary White

Posted on 07/13/2006 5:17:49 PM PDT by wagglebee

CANBERRA, July 13, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The Australian Health Ethics Committee is lobbying to have legislation passed that would allow those patients who are “certain to die” but not classified as “brain dead” to be surgically prepared for organ donation before death.

Currently, those patients who are declared “brain dead” are prepared by a procedure that involves inserting tubes into major arteries to prepare for cleansing of organs after death, blood tests and drug administration to better preserve organs.

The Committee’s working party has asked for legislation that would extend the preparation to those patients who are not “brain dead” but who are expected to die when the heart stops beating.

"There is only one state of death, but there are two ways in which a doctor can certify death as having occurred: brain death and cessation of circulation," said working party chair Peter Joseph. The Committee argues that the preparation is required because of the speed with which soft tissue deteriorates when blood is no longer circulating.

The distinction between so-called “brain death” and what is now being called circulatory death, the cessation of blood circulation and heartbeat, is coming under increasing criticism from religious organizations and classical ethicists.

An Australian ethicist, in response to the Committee’s discussions, expressed concern that patients who agree to organ transplants are not prepared for such an invasive procedure. The Sunday Age quoted Ray Campbell, a lecturer in medical ethics at St Paul's Theological College, saying, “I don't believe anyone who has consented to be an organ donor at this time would have envisaged this kind of procedure.”

Campbell made a submission to the ethics committee saying he was concerned that such changes would increase the eagerness of doctors to cease therapeutic treatment on organ donor patients. “Any attempt to water down our current definition of death should be resisted,” he said.

Organ donation and transplantation has developed into a multi-billion dollar industry since the first successful organ transplants and the development of immunosuppressant drugs in the late 1950’s. The international demand for organs has helped create the field of modern bioethics in which ethicists fear seriously ill patients are seen as living organ farms rather than persons with their own needs.

In 1999, when the Canadian government was looking for ways to increase organ donations, a Parliamentary committee heard testimony that the brain death criterion was unreliable at best.

Dr. John Yun, a Richmond, B.C. oncologist told the committee that the desire to acquire more organs was the motivation behind the invention of the brain death criterion. "We must not jump to the conclusion that a dubious definition of death—the medical hypothesis of brain death—is in fact death," he said.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; eugenics; euthanasia; moralabsolutes; organharvesting
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Disgusting Vultures!
1 posted on 07/13/2006 5:17:52 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: 8mmMauser; T'wit; BykrBayb; Irish_Thatcherite

Ping.


2 posted on 07/13/2006 5:18:41 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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3 posted on 07/13/2006 5:19:55 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Aren't we all "certain to die?" Whoda thunk life woruld turn into a "we're here for your liver" Monty Python skit?


4 posted on 07/13/2006 5:20:22 PM PDT by NonValueAdded
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"The Committee’s working party has asked for legislation that would extend the preparation to those patients who are not “brain dead” but who are expected to die when the heart stops beating."

Worthy of Humpty Dumpty on his best day.

5 posted on 07/13/2006 5:22:18 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: wagglebee

Frankenstein medicine! I keep what was given to me and I don't want that which is not mine.


6 posted on 07/13/2006 5:24:02 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th (Send-a-Brick.com. Send a brick to Washington and cash to Minutemen for a wall.)
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To: wagglebee

The result will be a lot less people signing up for donating their innards.


7 posted on 07/13/2006 5:29:44 PM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: wagglebee

I have this blood pressure tester that I got at Walgreen's, I discovered that if I hold my breath for the entire testing cycle, I can make it read 89/63 against a true reading of around 130/80; with a little practice, I might be able to qualify for one of their free prep jobs.


8 posted on 07/13/2006 5:30:11 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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The Australian Health Ethics Committee is lobbying to have legislation passed that would allow those patients who are “certain to die” but not classified as “brain dead” to be surgically prepared for organ donation before death.

Everyone on the committee is certain to die one day. So, when can we start surgically preparing them?

9 posted on 07/13/2006 5:33:26 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: wagglebee

Ghastly.


10 posted on 07/13/2006 5:37:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: wagglebee

Just pray you or a loved one never have to go on a list seeking donor organs, or you'll change your vulture tune quickly.


11 posted on 07/13/2006 5:37:04 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: gcruse

No, i won't.


12 posted on 07/13/2006 5:38:58 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (If chocolate fudge cake could sing, it would sound like Barry White.)
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To: gcruse

I don't want someone murdered for me to live.


13 posted on 07/13/2006 5:49:02 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Who are you murdering?


14 posted on 07/13/2006 6:10:31 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: gcruse

I would happily donate my organs, if it didn't mean I'd be murdered to get them early.


15 posted on 07/13/2006 7:00:01 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." Þ)
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Maybe I've misread the article, but I haven't seen anything about killin anyone.


16 posted on 07/13/2006 7:17:22 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: wagglebee
The first thought I had, glancing at this article, was that the price of transplantable organs must be very high. Follow the money. (And if this isn't a free market, as in this case, follow the money twice as hard -- something is going to be rotten.)

The hospital chop shops make boodles of money from those organs -- which is why most big hospitals nowadays have a surgical team at the ready 24/7. Naturally, this creates a huge incentive for the hospital to broaden the eligibility for organ donors, and to cut corners in evaluating who's dead enough to chop up. Just as naturally, moral standards give way to money grubbing. The higher the price of the organs, the less that ethical concerns will be observed.

Lost in the race for profits: "First, do no harm." "Thou shalt not kill."

17 posted on 07/13/2006 7:33:13 PM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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>> So, when can we start surgically preparing them?

I'd wait till they are teens. Teenagers are just impossible.

18 posted on 07/13/2006 7:36:33 PM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: T'wit

Please don't.

At least have the decency to allow the unfortunate person to pass on their own.

Let's not be vultures about this.


19 posted on 07/13/2006 9:26:43 PM PDT by jjr153 (Never Forget 9/11)
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Sorry T'wit, my comment was meant in general and was not specifically aimed at your post.


20 posted on 07/13/2006 9:31:48 PM PDT by jjr153 (Never Forget 9/11)
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