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Judge: FBI raid on lawmaker's office legal (Louisiana Democrat Rep. William Jefferson )
AP on Yahoo ^ | 7/10/06 | Toni Locy - ap

Posted on 07/10/2006 1:36:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - An FBI raid on a Louisiana congressman's Capitol Hill office was legal, a federal judge ruled Monday.

Chief U.S. District Judge Thomas F. Hogan said members of Congress are not above the law. He rejected requests from lawmakers and Democratic Rep. William Jefferson (news, bio, voting record) to return material seized by the FBI in a May 20-21 search of Jefferson's office.

In a 28-page opinion, Hogan dismissed arguments that the first-ever raid on a congressman's office violated the Constitution's protections against intimidation of elected officials.

"Congress' capacity to function effectively is not threatened by permitting congressional offices to be searched pursuant to validly issued search warrants," said Hogan, who had approved the FBI's request to conduct the overnight search of Jefferson's office.

Jefferson had sought the return of several computer hard drives, floppy disks and two boxes of paper documents that FBI agents seized during an 18-hour search of his Rayburn Building office.

At issue was a constitutional provision known as the speech and debate clause, which protects elected officials from being questioned by the president, a prosecutor or a plaintiff in a lawsuit about their legislative work.

"No one argues that the warrant executed upon Congressman Jefferson's office was not properly administered," Hogan wrote. "Therefore, there was no impermissible intrusion on the Legislature. The fact that some privileged material was incidentally captured by the search does not constitute an unlawful intrusion."

The raid on Jefferson's office angered members of Congress, some of whom threatened to retaliate by tinkering with the FBI and Justice Department budgets.

President Bush stepped in and ordered the solicitor general to take custody of the seized materials so Congress and the Justice Department could work out procedures to deal with similar situations in the future.

The president's 45-day "cooling off period" ended Sunday with no compromise worked out but with assurances from the Justice Department that it would not seek to regain custody of the materials until Hogan ruled on Jefferson's request.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: congress; corruption; fbi; govwatch; judge; judiciary; lawmaker; legal; office; raid; williamjefferson
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To: NormsRevenge; USF; Former Dodger; Fred Nerks; Just A Nobody
Chief U.S. District Judge Thomas F. Hogan said members of Congress are not above the law.

Can this really be true? Not above the law? Has anyone told them?

81 posted on 07/11/2006 6:18:47 AM PDT by jan in Colorado (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum (If you wish for peace, prepare for war.))
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To: lucky american

Good point!

Furthermore, why the hell did it take 28-pages for the judge to issue his rulings.

Even with footnotes and prior case citation, I can't believe it took that much paper for him to make his point.


82 posted on 07/11/2006 6:33:27 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: John Semmens

One of your best John! It would be funny, if it weren't so true!


83 posted on 07/11/2006 7:30:21 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: jazusamo
I have a feeling (but only a feeling).....

Be careful of "feeling" too much Jaz.....you could be stalked by the libs. ;*)



P.S. I agree!

84 posted on 07/11/2006 7:32:14 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: jan in Colorado
...members of Congress are not above the law.
Has anyone told them?

Apparently some of them did not get the memo:
Mrs. BJ KlinTOON
j F sKerry
Cape Cod Orca
The orca's son Patchy
SINney mcKINney
Dingy Harry Reid
Treasonous Rockafeller

85 posted on 07/11/2006 7:49:26 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: NormsRevenge
An FBI raid on a Louisiana congressman's Capitol Hill office was legal, a federal judge ruled Monday.

Score one for the good guys...

86 posted on 07/11/2006 7:51:16 AM PDT by GOPJ (Conservative MSM Publishers are letting the monkeys run the zoo.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Jefferson's from New Orleans. He could get re-elected even if he's found in bed with a dead woman or a live boy.


87 posted on 07/11/2006 8:22:21 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (A brevet or a coffin! Mors ab alto.)
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To: Roberts
How do we find out who the goons are who have "threatened to retaliate by tinkering with the FBI and Justice Department budgets"?
By using a search engine and the Internet in general?
By reading news accounts directly following the search?
By calling and asking your representatives what they know about it?
It's not that hard. It does, however, require a little thought on your part.

Not meaning to belittle or demean you, just wondering how green you really are.

88 posted on 07/11/2006 8:58:57 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: no dems
Now Nancy Pelosi and DENNIS HASTERT do the following: Nancy: Shut your surgically altered mouth. Denny: Shut your big, fat hog jowls you oinker.

Although I share your frustration that certain members of society feel they are above the law (elitist) I should remind you that Dennis Hastert was a wrestler and a HS wrestling coach (real wrestling). I would hate to see that oinker, as you put it, b!#ch slap anyone he dislikes. The guy has tremendous upper body strength.

89 posted on 07/11/2006 9:02:18 AM PDT by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: NormsRevenge
The new press interviews should be very interesting! Where is Larry King when you need him?
90 posted on 07/11/2006 9:03:41 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: NormsRevenge
Chief U.S. District Judge Thomas F. Hogan said members of Congress are not above the law.

I'm sure many Congressmen on both sides of the aisle are shocked at that ruling.

91 posted on 07/11/2006 10:39:39 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: livius
Power surge at the Senate office building!

Cut the power and go in to investigate. We can afford flashlights.

92 posted on 07/11/2006 3:22:08 PM PDT by ken in texas (come fold with us.... team #36120)
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To: catholicfreeper; Neville72; deport; pbrown; RouxStir; Ellesu; CajunConservative; AuH2ORepublican; ..
WOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!


I just thought I'd ping some of my fellow Louisiana Freepers to come in and see this. Forgive me if you've already viewed this.
93 posted on 07/11/2006 3:27:31 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: philman_36

"Not meaning to belittle or demean you, just wondering how green you really are."

Thanks for not belittling or demeaning me in response to a rhetorical question. Searching the internet? Reading news accounts? Thinking? I'd never have come up with those ideas.

Seriously, why the chip on your shoulder?


94 posted on 07/11/2006 9:55:51 PM PDT by Roberts
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To: NormsRevenge

If I am not mistaken, the judge was present the whole time to ensure the propriety of the execution of his signed order.

The decision was thus a foregone conclusion.


95 posted on 07/11/2006 10:05:47 PM PDT by Prost1 (We can build a wall, we can evict - "Si, se puede!")
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To: NormsRevenge

<< The raid on Jefferson's office angered members of Congress, some of whom threatened to retaliate .... >>

Why not?

Mobsters and racketeers'll always do what it takes to protect their own.

"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress."
-- Mark Twain


96 posted on 07/12/2006 12:20:08 AM PDT by Brian Allen (And as for me -- Give me Liberty -- or give me death!)
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To: StJacques

That is great news...but I am "deeply saddened"* by the fact that so many Republicans in Congress spoke out against this type of raid. They all think they are above the law.

*deeply saddened - an emotional state where one would like to "R. Kelly"* on your Congressmans $1500 alligator skin wingtips.

*R. Kelly - Dave Chapelebonics for urinate.


97 posted on 07/12/2006 11:27:48 AM PDT by RouxStir
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To: StJacques

That is great news...but I am "deeply saddened"* by the fact that so many Republicans in Congress spoke out against this type of raid. They all think they are above the law.

*deeply saddened - an emotional state where one would like to "R. Kelly"* on your Congressmans $1500 alligator skin wingtips.

*R. Kelly - Dave Chapelebonics for urinate.


98 posted on 07/12/2006 11:28:29 AM PDT by RouxStir (No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Roberts
Thanks for not belittling or demeaning me in response to a rhetorical question.
Chill man.
I took it as a direct question.
My apologies. Perhaps an /sarcasm on your end to clarify things?
99 posted on 07/12/2006 2:24:37 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: pointsal

"... ALL OF THEM!"

Nonsense! There are a hundred senators, and 435 representatives! There must be dozens of honest men there! Well, ok, 2 or 3, at least. Just one?


100 posted on 07/12/2006 5:07:11 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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