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Plotters sought to bomb NY tunnel:
ABC news ^ | 07/07/06 | NA

Posted on 07/07/2006 4:04:33 AM PDT by prisoner6

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To: mainepatsfan
How long before the MSM claims that the plot "wasn't that serious"?

They will claim this at the same time they insist that NYC needs more Homeland Security money.

41 posted on 07/07/2006 5:34:31 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: wtc911
We have less than zero tolerance for their [Jersey Girls] efforts to make the tragedy of that day their own personal property.

Thanks. Always good to hear from those who see through their self-serving veneer. For us out here in fly-over country listening to the Rats and the media, to listen to them its like Ann Coulter is the anti-Christ.

42 posted on 07/07/2006 5:35:05 AM PDT by CedarDave (When a soldier dies, a protester gloats, a family cries, an Iraqi votes)
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To: Alberta's Child

You're right. In fact, there are actually TWO issues: first, the intelligence of the alleged plotters, second the intelligence of the writer of the article, for not questioning the physics involved.


43 posted on 07/07/2006 5:37:18 AM PDT by rudy45
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To: All

Make sure you see post #5... let it soak in.


44 posted on 07/07/2006 5:38:18 AM PDT by AliVeritas ("One for all , all for kicking *ss and taking names" ...Scratch taking names.)
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To: prisoner6

MSM will try to minimize this, blame it on a white male Christian named Bush, publish it one time only then ignore it forever just as they ignore anything that destroys their world-view.


45 posted on 07/07/2006 5:39:00 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Peach
Peach. Our former real estate agent grew up in the Village. She is an "Oh, so sophisticated" liberal socialist. She cannot believe that anything bad that happens to our country isn't President Bush's fault. She sees the Times as the Holy Bible of her faith (Socialism). She is so much smarter and so much more sophisticated than the rest of us...and she is dumber than a box of rocks!

The Socialists cannot get out of their frame of reference that President Bush is dumb. As a result, they cannot make heads or tails out of the fact that he keeps succeeding when "everyone knows" that he is dumb.

46 posted on 07/07/2006 5:39:55 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (¡Salga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: angcat
"PLOTTER what is a plotter, someone who digs plots!"

It is a machine that draws diagrams sent to it from a computer.

47 posted on 07/07/2006 5:41:53 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (¡Salga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: COBOL2Java

Remember this one from the NYT?

June 18, 2006, Sunday
By AL BAKER AND WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM; SCOTT SHANE REPORTED FROM WASHINGTON FOR THIS ARTICLE. (NYT); Metropolitan Desk

U.S. Feared Cyanide Attack On Subway

Late Edition - Final, Section 1, Page 25, Column 5, 864 words

DISPLAYING FIRST 50 OF 864 WORDS -United States authorities in 2003 were concerned that Al Qaeda operatives had made plans to carry out a chemical attack on the New York City subway system, according to two former counterterrorism officials. But American intelligence authorities concluded that the plot ultimately had been abandoned, the officials said. Plans...

(This was after a guy stabbed up a lot of folks in the subway).


48 posted on 07/07/2006 5:42:56 AM PDT by AliVeritas ("One for all , all for kicking *ss and taking names" ...Scratch taking names.)
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To: prisoner6

Now we're probably gonna have Free Padilla redux.


49 posted on 07/07/2006 5:44:41 AM PDT by cake_crumb (One presidential visit to Baghdad is worth 1000 pathetic declarations of defeat from the left)
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To: FDNYRHEROES

It was a rhetorical question.


50 posted on 07/07/2006 5:46:37 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: AliVeritas

Would be nice if the Administration is engineering a little counterintelligence on the NY Times - allowing a little disinfo to be fed to it. Wouldn't that frost little Pinch to eventually learn down the road that his efforts actually helped things?


51 posted on 07/07/2006 5:48:09 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Freedom isn't free, but the men and women of the military will pay most of your share)
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To: CholeraJoe

Yep, that'd do it, for anyone paying attention, as most FReepers do.

Just another great example of basic journalistic ignorance. These people can't even write any more, let alone be expected to have any reasonable level of general knowledge.


52 posted on 07/07/2006 5:48:29 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: rudy45

"Water, IIRC, seeks its own level. The tunnel is below the level of Manhattan streets, so how could water from there cause flooding?"

Jihadi physics.

They were going to put a dozen genies inside the explosives containers.

http://uniset.ca/terr/news/wp_islamlostitsway.html

The Washington Post

How Islam Lost Its Way
Yesterday's Achievements Were Golden; Today, Reason Has Been Eclipsed

By Pervez Amir Ali Hoodbhoy
Sunday, December 30, 2001; Page B04

"One of two Pakistani nuclear engineers recently arrested on suspicion of passing nuclear secrets to the Taliban had earlier proposed to solve Pakistan's energy problems by harnessing the power of genies. He relied on the Islamic belief that God created man from clay, and angels and genies from fire; so this highly placed engineer proposed to capture the genies and extract their energy."


53 posted on 07/07/2006 5:49:47 AM PDT by angkor
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To: rudy45
"The tunnel is below the level of Manhattan streets, so how could water from there cause flooding?"

That's probably what the drive by media will say in their "Free terrorist hero's name here" defense. It wouldn't have worked like they thought, ergo it was nothing. Now on to our latest global warming disaster scenario.

The fact that it's a terrorist plot to attack NYC again will be conveniently forgotten. The fact that even if it succeeded in blowing up the Holland Tunnel but failed to flood Manhatten would still result in a gold mine of terror to the terrorists will never even have been thought of by the media.

54 posted on 07/07/2006 5:51:17 AM PDT by cake_crumb (One presidential visit to Baghdad is worth 1000 pathetic declarations of defeat from the left)
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To: prisoner6
...and send devastating floodwaters through lower Manhattan.

...and carried almost 34 million vehicles in 2005...

ahhh.... I see what the news writer was thinking: Of course! Water does indeed seek its own level, but think of all those cars, flowing thru the flooded tunnel, after the driver parked and then opened the door at his/her destination in lower Manhattan, each car pouring perhaps 50 gallons at a time into the streets.

Granted, it might take a few years... but this would DEVESTATE Lower Manhattan with these "flood waters" fer sure!

55 posted on 07/07/2006 5:51:50 AM PDT by C210N (Bush SPYED, Terrorists DIED!)
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To: Redleg Duke

It should say Terrorist but ABC does not believe we have any Terrorist after us!


56 posted on 07/07/2006 5:53:54 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !")
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To: cake_crumb

The fact that they may not have been able to flood lower Manhattan doesn't matter - simply blowing up the tunnel would create havoc, not only at that moment but in the ensuing weeks as traffic had to find some other route into Manhattan, and have a significant economic impact.

But of course, that doesn't matter to the media, which is busy defending the Muslim nutcases in Florida who were plotting to blow up the Sears Tower by declaring, well, they never could have gotten away with it anyway, they were too dumb. That's a defense?


57 posted on 07/07/2006 6:01:24 AM PDT by livius
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To: prisoner6

Wow, I hope we didn't violate anyone's rights, by listening in on phonecalls among scumbags/sarcasm off


58 posted on 07/07/2006 6:03:09 AM PDT by RadioCirca1970
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To: AliVeritas
Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said, "This is one instance where intelligence was on top of its game and discovered the plot when it was just in the talking phase."

I wonder how many we'll never know about......

59 posted on 07/07/2006 6:03:41 AM PDT by b4its2late (Schumer is such an ass......)
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To: wtc911
You read the Times? I don't. not anymore.

I continue to read the N.Y. Times every day. Why? Because I want to know how the enemy thinks and what it is thinking.

60 posted on 07/07/2006 6:05:09 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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