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1 posted on 07/06/2006 8:21:36 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 07/06/2006 8:21:53 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Well Scott, is now the time to short MSFT?


3 posted on 07/06/2006 8:30:48 AM PDT by LiberationIT
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As prominent as Java is becoming, Sun will have to continue in some form to support the huge code base that exists out in the real world. I just hope they don't dissolve before I get my certification!


4 posted on 07/06/2006 8:35:12 AM PDT by IronJack
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Can someone tell me in simple terms what JAVA is and what it does. (I don't mean the Java I'm drinking)...
5 posted on 07/06/2006 8:39:09 AM PDT by tubebender (Some minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.)
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Sun used to have a US$7 billion cash pile but this year's accounts will show a sizeable dent as a result of the US$4.1 billion acquisition of StorageTek which it completed last September

It lost US$11 million in 2005.

It's hard to see how they could be in any near term trouble with numbers like these. With several billion in the bank, they post annual loses like last years for several hundred years.

8 posted on 07/06/2006 8:43:12 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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Well, Sun always has been expensive and proprietary. With every computer manufacturer and his brother producing inexpensive servers and ever cheaper off-the-shelf technology that will do anything you need, Sun had to slip.

If they would have paid more attention to the consumer market, and pushed Linux, both might have made some inroads into the market in a big way.
9 posted on 07/06/2006 8:44:32 AM PDT by auntyfemenist (Card carrying conservative, William F. Buckley fan.)
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That's a shame - when I was in college in the early '90s, Sun was the company to work for if you were doing a CS degree. Employees used to post about how exciting it was to work there.


13 posted on 07/06/2006 8:52:49 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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What a ridiculous article, Sun may have lost some revenue to the foreign copy of Unix called Linux, but they're not about to go under. Their revenue is still over $10 billion (with a "B") per year. Add all the revenue up from every Linux company on Earth and it's not even $1 billion, nor will it be anytime soon. To put it in perspective, the largest Linux company by far Red Hat is only bringing in about $200 million a year, making Sun 50 times bigger in revenue, and much more diversified. Not to mention Sun has more cash on hand than Red Hat's entire market cap value! That means they could buy the whole company today, by simply writing a check. And the way RH shares are tumbling in value right now, that's not going to change anytime soon.


19 posted on 07/06/2006 9:47:14 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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I remember all the shots that McNealy used to take at Microsoft. Who's laughing now?


21 posted on 07/06/2006 10:01:19 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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The Innovator's Dilema is a book they decided NOT to read. Every executive from middle manager to CEO to shareholder should read it.


33 posted on 07/06/2006 10:39:22 AM PDT by quantfive
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I think Sun's real problem is making the argument that their hardware is a good value. They used to have such a performance advantage that the pricing made sense. Now, I'm not so sure.


37 posted on 07/06/2006 10:45:22 AM PDT by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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BTW, if you follow the sun when it sets to see where it went and keep walking, it will dawn on you.


42 posted on 07/06/2006 11:08:17 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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