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Investigation Under Way in Iraqi Family's Deaths
American Forces Press Service ^

Posted on 07/01/2006 7:27:59 AM PDT by SandRat

WASHINGTON, June 30, 2006 – The Army's Criminal Investigation Command is looking into allegations that coalition soldiers killed an Iraqi family of four in their home near Mahmudiyah, Iraq, military officials here announced today. A written statement issued by Multinational Division Baghdad said U.S. Army Maj. Gen. James D. Thurman, the division's commanding general, requested a criminal probe into the allegations after the division's own preliminary investigation found sufficient information existed to recommend a criminal investigation.

The incident that led to the allegations reportedly occurred in March, but the military's written statement did not provide a time frame. The statement said two soldiers on June 23 reported alleged coalition force involvement in the family's deaths. The criminal investigation began the next day, and is ongoing, officials said.

Officials did not provide the identity or nationality of the accused soldiers or those who came forward with the allegations. A command spokesman told American Forces Press Service he was not yet releasing any information beyond that contained in today's written statement.

(Based on a Multinational Division Baghdad news release.)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: deaths; familys; investigation; iraqi; under; way
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1 posted on 07/01/2006 7:28:01 AM PDT by SandRat
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To: 91B; HiJinx; Spiff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; clintonh8r; TEXOKIE; windchime; Grampa Dave; ...

Once more the sad saga begins of nedia conviction, investigation, media rage, Art. 32 proceedings, media leftist glee, Art. 32 recommendations of dismissal of all charges, media and lefist abject outrage.


2 posted on 07/01/2006 7:31:37 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1658866/posts


3 posted on 07/01/2006 7:34:43 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SandRat

My bet is that after the military sticks it's political finger into the air to see which way the wind is blowing, their investigation will determine that the Iraqis are dead and American troops drove through the town that day.


4 posted on 07/01/2006 7:35:55 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: SandRat
I'll repeat what I said in another thread. This is a simple situation, it's not complicated, it's not nuclear science. IF these allegations and the exact set of circumstances around them are proven to be accurate in a military court of law, then these soldiers should have the full weight of military justice brought down on them, up to and including the death penalty IMHO. If they are proven to be not accurate, then these men should be sent back to do their jobs and we should hammer the people who tried to make a mountain out of a molehill as hard and as long as we can. Either way, WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MISSION IN IRAQ.

Sorry for shouting. :)

5 posted on 07/01/2006 7:38:02 AM PDT by GB
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To: SandRat

It is important to know exactly what the composition of this so-called "Multinational Division" is......the following (snipped) statement regarding composition is dated March 31, this year - the end of the month the article above claims this incident occurred.....my own opinion is that the press knows that American GI's are not the perpetrators, considering how little is being said about it....

" General: Baghdad Division Curbing Violence as Government Forms
By Donna Miles
American Forces Press Service

In-Depth Coverage WASHINGTON, March 31, 2006 – The beefed-up force in and around Baghdad is helping curb violence and likely will stay at current levels as Iraq's new unity government forms, the force's commander told Pentagon reporters today.
Army Maj. Gen. James Thurman said Multinational Division Baghdad, with about 32,000 Iraqi security forces and just over 29,000 U.S., Georgian, Macedonian and Estonian troops, is likely to keep its current strength until the government becomes operational. "I see that as being a critical piece in getting the overall rule of law of law established in all of Iraq," and specifically, Baghdad, he told reporters in a video teleconference from Iraq" snip

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iraq/2006/03/iraq-060331-afps01.htm


6 posted on 07/01/2006 7:40:28 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: SandRat

After Haditha, terrorists and terrorist sympathizers know how to get the West all riled up -- report an alleged atrocity, get a "witness" to spin a tale, and the media will pick it up and run with it for you.

It's become a tactic, and I now look dubiously at all these stories.


7 posted on 07/01/2006 7:50:09 AM PDT by JennysCool (Roll out the Canarble Wagon!)
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To: SandRat
So we're not supposed to go to war until all our troops are free of sin?

Punish the wrongdoers and get on with it!

8 posted on 07/01/2006 8:02:42 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: The Duke
Punish the wrongdoers and get on with it!

Amen!

9 posted on 07/01/2006 8:05:09 AM PDT by GB
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To: SandRat
Sorry again to bring this up.

No repudiation of your thread.

This headline in various forms has been posted here at freerepublic way to many times.

The America hating left wants us to fixate on their fakery.

I chose to catalog this story along side their other fake news and fake polls.
10 posted on 07/01/2006 8:11:45 AM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: JennysCool
"It's become a tactic, and I now look dubiously at all these stories."

This accusation is about as far fetched as a story can get. To believe this one, you would have to believe that five mad men just happened to be assigned to the same fire team, in the same squad, in the same platoon, in the same company, in the same battalion in the 502 Regiment. You would have to believe that they left their unit one night and went to Mahmudiyah, a town that is a hot bed of Sunni insurgents where Americans never travel in less than Company strength, committed an unbelievably horrendous crime and left without being taken under fire by the insurgents.

If you can believe that scenario, you gotta be a Democrat (the political party of the feeble minded).

11 posted on 07/01/2006 8:15:32 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: new yorker 77

IMHO, it is just as inadvisable to say, at this point in time, that there is absolutely no possibility that these allegations as true as it is to say with metaphysical certitude that they are true and start coiling nooses. A very active investigation process appears to be under way. The truth will come out. Whatever that truth may be, The Duke had it right ... let's move forward from it and get on with the mission.


12 posted on 07/01/2006 8:16:18 AM PDT by GB
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To: GB

Soldiers perform thousands of acts of kindness and heroism daily.

To make this 'accusation' a headline is a disgrace.

To acknowledge it would also require one to not only believe the congenital liars in the press but would also require one to have serve selective amnesia when it comes to stories like this.

The AP is not worthy of an "If this is true". They lie way too much.


13 posted on 07/01/2006 8:19:18 AM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: DustyMoment

I believe you just had a dusty moment.


14 posted on 07/01/2006 8:19:30 AM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: GB
So we're not supposed to go to war until all our troops are free of sin? Punish the wrongdoers and get on with it!

What wrongdoers? Not proved yet. I would like to know who the witnesses are?

15 posted on 07/01/2006 8:19:43 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Logical me

I repeat. The AP is not worthy of an "If this is true". They lie way too much.


16 posted on 07/01/2006 8:22:45 AM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: DJ Taylor

Excellent points.


17 posted on 07/01/2006 8:32:27 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Logical me

That's not my line, that's from The Duke in an earlier post, I put it in italics to signal that I was quoting him. My response to The Duke was "Amen," the reason I said that being that even if, and that's a gigantic IF, this accusation should be proven to be true, it should in no way halt or hinder our mission in Iraq.


18 posted on 07/01/2006 8:34:13 AM PDT by GB
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To: SandRat; All

It's the terrorists in Iraq playing to the whining and complaining of the left in America - "bring the troops home now" crowd.

It's so obvious to me .. all of a sudden we have all these accusations against our troops .. it's just too coincidental for me. I believe this whole scheme is to promote outrage against our troops and FORCE America to withdraw.

We must not allow that to happen.


19 posted on 07/01/2006 8:36:46 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: new yorker 77

I respect your right to hold this opinion. I would love to see these accusations proven completely and totally wrong. There is an ongoing investigation and the truth will come out. I will repeat my .02 on this situation. If these accusations are proven to be accurate, those involved should be punished to the fullest extent of military law and justice. If they are proven to be inaccurate, these men should be returned to their jobs and we should hammer the people who tried to make a mountain out of a molehill as hard as we can for as long as we have breath. But EITHER WAY, we move forward with the mission in Iraq.


20 posted on 07/01/2006 8:39:35 AM PDT by GB
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