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1 posted on 06/30/2006 10:53:15 AM PDT by mathprof
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Could it be that people like Pinch Sulzberger who inherit their wealth tend to be on a guilt ridden "suicide" trip as far at their country goes? Any moron can inherit wealth and be the "big boss" while soiling their country.


51 posted on 06/30/2006 11:35:26 AM PDT by olezip
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Tokyo Rose would be proud.


maybe if the next terrorist bomb were detonated at the NYT these Marys would finally smell the coffee, "WE ARE AT WAR!"


53 posted on 06/30/2006 11:36:16 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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bump


59 posted on 06/30/2006 11:42:19 AM PDT by fso301
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All I can say is that I'd wish I was in the audience eating tomatoes when Keller was doing his screed.

Keller'd be wearing them.

62 posted on 06/30/2006 11:44:07 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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These clowns should be tried for treason....


68 posted on 06/30/2006 11:51:03 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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Quote:
the Times's new publisher, Arthur "Pinch" Sulzberger Jr ... was a sixties anti-war activist who famously declared that in a confrontation between an American and a North Vietnamese soldier he'd want to see the American get shot."
Unquote.
Stanley Kurtz (NRO on line, June 5, 2001)

Fight dirty: quote them accurately.

73 posted on 06/30/2006 11:54:50 AM PDT by aculeus
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Who died and left you President of the United States?
75 posted on 06/30/2006 11:57:44 AM PDT by dighton
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88 posted on 06/30/2006 12:08:35 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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What do you can a man who has a gun carry permit but editorializes against handgun ownership ?


94 posted on 06/30/2006 12:16:12 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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Oh, meeeeooooow, Pinchy.


96 posted on 06/30/2006 12:17:26 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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Well, it would be a classy thing if the New York Times and other newspapers would stop writing daily editorials, tributes, and high praise to themselves -- and give a little bit of recognition and credit to other people in the world -- other than themselves!

It does tend to get a bit wearying -- which might explain why people are dropping their subscriptions like flies -- just like avoiding any other wholly self-preoccupied people with delusions on the street and unavoidable venues in life.


97 posted on 06/30/2006 12:19:45 PM PDT by MikeHu
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This response by an editor of the liberal Oregonian is another great whack at the seditious bastards at the Ny Slimes.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1657984/posts

Who died and left you president of the United States? (NYT)
Oregonian ^ | 6-29-06 | David Reinhard, Associate Editor


Posted on 06/29/2006 1:54:16 PM PDT by veronica


Dear Bill Keller:

Remember me? We met in the elevator here at The Oregonian recently. Your decision to expose a secret program to track terrorist funding got me to thinking I had better write and apologize. I don't think I was sufficiently deferential on our brief ride together. I treated you like the executive editor of The New York Times who used to work for The Oregonian. I had no idea I was riding with the man who decides what classified programs will be made public during a war on terror. I had no idea the American people had elected you president and commander in chief.

Yes, I'm being sarcastic. What's that they say -- sarcasm is anger's ugly cousin? I'm angry, Bill.

I get angry when a few unauthorized individuals take it upon themselves to undermine an anti-terror program that even your own paper deems legal and successful. I get angry when the same people decide to blow the lid on a secret program designed to keep Islamic terrorists from killing Americans en masse.

"The disclosure of this program," President Bush said Monday, "is disgraceful."

Strong words, but not strong enough, Bill.

Your decision was contemptible, but your Sunday letter explaining the Times' decision only undermined your case for disclosure.

"It's an unusual and powerful thing, this freedom that our founders gave to the press . . .," you wrote. "[T]he people who invented this country saw an aggressive, independent press as a protective measure against the abuse of power in a democracy. . . . They rejected the idea that it is wise, or patriotic, to always take the President at his word, or to surrender to the government important decisions about what to publish."

Too true, but the issue here is your judgment. It would be one thing if you ran this story because the program was illegal, abusive or feckless. Yet your paper established nothing of the kind. In the end, your patronizing and lame letter offered only press-convention bromides ("a matter of public interest").

"Forgive me, I know this is pretty elementary stuff -- but it's the kind of elementary context that sometimes gets lost in the heat of strong disagreements," you write, after providing a tutorial on how the government only wants the press to publish the official line and the press believes "citizens can be entrusted with unpleasant and complicated news."

But this is a false and self-serving choice. The issue is your decision to publish classified information that can only aid our enemies. The founders didn't give the media or unnamed sources a license to expose secret national security operations in wartime. They set up a Congress to pass laws against disclosing state secrets and an executive branch to conduct secret operations so the new nation could actually defend itself from enemies, foreign and domestic.

Forgive me, I know this is pretty elementary stuff -- but it's the kind of elementary stuff that can get lost in the heat of strong disagreements. And get more people killed in the United States or Iraq.

Not to worry, you tell us, terrorists already know we track their funding, and disclosure won't undercut the program. (Contradictory claims, but what the heck.) You at the Times know better. You know better than government officials who said disclosing the program's methods and means would jeopardize a successful enterprise. You know better than the 9/11 Commission chairmen who urged you not to run the story. Better than Republican and Democratic lawmakers who were briefed on the program. Better than the Supreme Court, which has held since 1976 that bank records are not constitutionally protected. Better than Congress, which established the administrative subpoenas used in this program.

Maybe you do. But whether you do or not, there's no accountability. If you're wrong and we fail to stop a terror plot and people die because of your story, who's going to know, much less hold you accountable? No, the government will be blamed -- oh, happy day, maybe Bush's White House! -- for not connecting dots or crippling terror networks. The Times might even run the kind of editorial it ran on Sept. 24, 2001. Remember? The one that said "much more is needed" to track terror loot, including "greater cooperation with foreign banking authorities"?

Keep up the good work -- for al-Qaida.


99 posted on 06/30/2006 12:21:58 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic Lies posing as journalism)
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"On the right, the goal is to tar everyone in the "mainstream media."


No need in that.
They do an excellent job of proving their nonexistant patriotism, and
their goal of obstructing our war effort, every day...all by themselves.

Thank you for a GOOD post!


108 posted on 06/30/2006 12:44:33 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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BTTT


112 posted on 06/30/2006 12:50:13 PM PDT by angelsonmyside
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I wondered why conservatives weren't going after the WSJ. Now I know - the cat was already out of the bag. BTW, Barack Obama said the NYT was just doing its job (on Hannity & Colmes, IIRC)... Well done editorial.


114 posted on 06/30/2006 1:00:17 PM PDT by PghBaldy ( Scalia (Hamdan):"...at least the Court shows some semblance of seemly shame...")
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Hey, Sulzberger...put some ice on it, you treasonous POS.


115 posted on 06/30/2006 1:14:21 PM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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118 posted on 06/30/2006 1:35:16 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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When the NYTimes gets criticized by the Administration, it's a badge of honor (that's how they regard it). When they get criticized by a journalistic rival, it's far more serious.


122 posted on 06/30/2006 2:32:52 PM PDT by Tallguy (When it's a bet between reality and delusion, bet on reality -- Mark Steyn)
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Interesting coming from the WSJ which also ran the same exact story on the same exact day, that they're slamming the NY Times over.
125 posted on 06/30/2006 3:14:07 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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"We have on many occasions withheld information when lives were at stake," Keller said.

Whose lives? American soldiers' or terrorists'?

136 posted on 06/30/2006 5:59:58 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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