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1 posted on 06/29/2006 4:40:32 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 06/29/2006 4:41:46 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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Good post! Thanks.


3 posted on 06/29/2006 4:42:13 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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I think Freakonomics also said the same thing.
6 posted on 06/29/2006 4:47:31 PM PDT by King Moonracer
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The key to optimum survival seems to be a method to detect cheaters and avoid interacting with them. Cooperators interacting with cooperators will prosper. Cheaters cheating other cheaters will die off


7 posted on 06/29/2006 4:51:08 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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Too cool.


8 posted on 06/29/2006 4:51:12 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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Yet cooperation is a hallmark of human society, allowing for the creation of everything from the local grange to the United Nations.

I am confused. Is the United Nations an example of people working cooperatively together for the common good or of a bunch of a parasites whose sole goal in life (other than picking up a taxpayer funded paycheck) is to prevent the fruits of liberty and capitalism from being spread throughout the world.

9 posted on 06/29/2006 4:54:09 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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Sounds like a load to me! Cooperation thrives so long as the group is kept small and cognition is not factored in? So communism and socialism won't work because it's too big or because it's incognitive?
Ayn Rand was right, self interest works and it isn't cheating!


13 posted on 06/29/2006 5:03:57 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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The most cooperative species ever seen on earth are insects colony's...

They have no intellect.

Female mates once. All in the colony are females, are all sisters and no males are produced until the colony needs to split up...


15 posted on 06/29/2006 5:08:00 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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Thanks for this article...I am especially grateful for this article, because in the third paragraph, the 'grange' is mentioned....in my area, the Pacific Northwest, there are two grange halls which are in terrible disrepair...probably because they are no longer being used...however, the one in a small town near here, is going to be restored, or repaired, because there is a new housing development going up just near the old grange, and the old grange looks so tacky...rather than tearing it down, the town has raised the funds to repair and fix up the old grange...which I think is a fine thing...granges may not be used much anymore, depending on where they are built, but they were an important part of the past, and as such, I am glad to see a town recognize its historic past, and willing to raise the money to restore the building...

There is another grange hall closer to me, which is currently in absolute disrepair...and I am hoping to find out via snail mail and emailings, if anything can be done to save this building...

In any case, my ramblings here, probably have nothing to do with the general subject matter of the thread, except that grange halls, did exist for many years, as a help to the farmers...farmers cooperating with one another for promoting common interests...

Anyway, thanks...its not too often that I see granges mentioned anywhere...


16 posted on 06/29/2006 5:08:11 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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Is collaboration the same as cooperation? Why is self interest defined as cheating? This is nonsense.


18 posted on 06/29/2006 5:14:12 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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[“In our model, you can get groups of different sizes – and cooperators seem to flourish in smaller groups,” Flatt said]



If their claim is true that this property is applicable to human sociology, then this might explain why a communal or "communist" philosophy works fine when it's limited to a handful of people (like family groups) but fails when the numbers increase to more than a few dozen.


40 posted on 06/30/2006 10:15:48 AM PDT by spinestein (Follow "The Bronze Rule")
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