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How AIDS changed sex in America. Or did it? Virus opened door to sex education ...
PMS NBC ^ | 06.04.06 | Brian Alexander

Posted on 06/25/2006 12:55:57 PM PDT by Coleus

At first, AIDS appeared to be a disease of gay men. But by the time the virus responsible, HIV, had been identified a few years later, fear that sex, whether gay or straight, would kill millions of Americans shadowed every discussion of the topic.

America’s sex life seemed poised for a dramatic change.

But 25 years later, AIDS' true impact on the American sexual landscape has been muted, and, experts say, the changes that did occur were not always the ones we expected. Perception of what the sexual atmosphere was like before AIDS often relies on a convenient metaphor, like, say, Studio 54. Fueled by sex, drugs and disco, the New York nightclub had a debauched three-year run as a hangout for movie stars, sports heroes and the fashion crowd before its two founders, Steve Rubell and Ian Schrager, were thrown in jail in 1980 for tax evasion.

The next year, AIDS arrived (Rubell eventually died of it). But the story — first we partied, then we paid — is too tidy. While Studio 54 achieved a kind of infamy, the vast majority of Americans could never pass beyond the velvet ropes. The vast majority were not having anonymous sex in nightspots, nor going to gay bathhouses, nor swinging in suburbia.

But AIDS, or, more accurately, talk about AIDS, was everywhere from national magazine covers to school board meetings in rural towns. Just 17 years before the first American AIDS patients checked into hospitals, comedian Lenny Bruce was prosecuted for referring in his stand-up routine to things that now appeared on nightly newscasts.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: abstinence; abstinenceeducation; aids; generalpershing; hiv; hivaids; homosexualagenda; humanbehavior; moralabsolutes; oralsex; sexeducation; sexkills; std; stds; wod; wodlist
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1 posted on 06/25/2006 12:56:02 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

The first disease with civil rights.

We knew at the beginning that the primary vector was practitioners of anal intercourse.

They should have been isolated then -- before it got out of the pervert population and into the rest of America.


2 posted on 06/25/2006 1:10:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: Coleus

Virus opened door to sex education ... and the deification of homsexuals by the popular culture.


3 posted on 06/25/2006 1:12:56 PM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: Coleus
May have opened the door to sex education, BUT the truth about it is not taught. To make it a hate crime to teach the truth is bad policy to the extreme!
4 posted on 06/25/2006 1:16:17 PM PDT by gidget7 (PC is the huge rock, behind which lies hide!)
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To: BenLurkin
"They should have been isolated then -- before it got out of the pervert population and into the rest of America."

They couldn't possibly have found the time to do that, they were too busy harassing smokers.
5 posted on 06/25/2006 1:36:28 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: Coleus

WHAT a LOAD of CRAP......Sex Education began in the late 60's/early 70's.....BEFORE ANYONE was talking about AIDS (or probably before it was even known.)


6 posted on 06/25/2006 1:37:56 PM PDT by goodnesswins ( "the left can only take power through deception." (and it seems Hillary & Company are the masters)
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To: Coleus; Alexander Rubin; An American In Dairyland; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; BIRDS; BlackElk; ...
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How AIDS changed sex in America. Or did it? Virus opened door to sex education

The left still refuses to exist that the best prevention is abstinence, followed by marriage and monogamy. Condoms and red ribbons only contribute to the problem.

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7 posted on 06/25/2006 1:40:22 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: gidget7

Liberals lie and people die.


8 posted on 06/25/2006 1:46:29 PM PDT by jla
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To: wagglebee
And popular entertainment (and youth culture)(but not just the youth! the middle-aged! grey-hairs, too!) --- explicitly adopting the standards of pimps 'n' ho's.

I have really uneasy feelings about taking my kids to the city-department-of-parks-and-rec pool because of the sluttish nakedness of the young girls--- standing next to their sluttish mothers. I mean, if it distracts me, what does it do to my adolescent sons?

On a very deep, preverbal level, there's such a thing as "body language," that is, innate meanings arising from a central motivating device in the limbic core of the brain (enough of that, but trust me on this)---

And I'm here to tell you that nakedness means, and can only mean, three things: (1)innocense (as in infants); (2) intimacy (as in faithful, trusting lovers); and (3) shame, as in slave auctions, trafficked women, and abuse.

A woman sexually displaying herself to persons not known to her, for money or any reason other that personal connection, is not experiencing wholeness, health, well-being, joy or dignity.

Women aren't built that way. Women uncover for love, intimacy, contact, kindness, commitment.

You could see women's bodily "disclosure" as an intricate weave of heart, hormones, flesh, feeling, sense and sensibility, soul, spirit, mind and mystery.

If we could see the souls of women who strip themselves for impersonal sexual attention --- or commerce -- what a smearing and sliming of the soul we would see. What wreckage. What pathetic wreckage.

What a crime against love's body.
9 posted on 06/25/2006 3:32:42 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I say it and I mean it: Viva sweet love.)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


10 posted on 06/25/2006 3:40:35 PM PDT by Coleus (RU-486 Kills babies & mothers, Bush can stop this as Clinton allowed it through executive order)
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To: BenLurkin

Is, was, and always will be a disease limited to homosexuals, and/or needle sharing druggies and/or those who share their beds! The meida spent a forturne trying to portray it otherwise so that lots of government bucks could be spent on a disease which affects only 2% of the population who CHOOSE to behave in such a way as to contract it! 'RATS phoniness one more time!


11 posted on 06/25/2006 3:52:17 PM PDT by SouthCarolinaKit
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To: SouthCarolinaKit

It's the most politicised disease in history!!


12 posted on 06/25/2006 4:01:14 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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To: Coleus
Nice to see that we still have a "Presidential AIDS office" defended by the likes of Pat Robertson.

I seem to remember the open discussion of sex in school and in "polite" society in general coinciding with "Get a Piece of the" Rock Hudson's death. Would you believe Prudential didn't use that slogan for five years because of that?

13 posted on 06/25/2006 4:03:50 PM PDT by Clemenza (The CFR ate my bilderburgers! Time to call for a trilateral commission to investigate!)
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To: SouthCarolinaKit
"Is, was, and always will be a disease limited to homosexuals, and/or needle sharing druggies and/or those who share their beds! The media spent a fortune trying to portray it otherwise so that lots of government bucks could be spent on a disease which affects only 2% of the population who CHOOSE to behave in such a way as to contract it! 'RATS phoniness one more time!"

THANK YOU!

From those FACTS, liberals JUMPED on it to have it occur more often through EXPLICIT sex ed at lower an lower ages. To scam up money for research they lied to you so you thought as a heterosexual you could get it too! Forget the FACT that it is primarily a HOMOSEXUAL and IV drug user disease.
14 posted on 06/25/2006 4:18:12 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: goodnesswins

You're trying to confuse the author with facts.


15 posted on 06/25/2006 4:21:24 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Coleus; wagglebee

I don't wish to start tinfoil hat conspiracy theories here, but I do often wonder about the origin of AIDS.


16 posted on 06/25/2006 4:22:36 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
AIDS was originally called GRIDS (Gay-related immune deficiency). I think they should bring the name back. They have further tried to change the name to HIV since AIDS is now considered stigmatizing. .

By the Way my brother mentioned once there was a book about GRIDS which was banned. He couldn't remember the name or anything. It was written in the late 1970's or early 1980's. Any guesses out there?

Here is some info. from wikipedia. GRIDS

Gay-related immune deficiency (GRIDS) was the original name for AIDS, a name proposed after public health scientists noticed clusters of Kaposi's sarcoma and Pneumocycstis pneumonia among gay males in California and New York City. CDC. During the early history of AIDS, an ad hoc organization called Gay Men's Health Crisis was founded to combat what was then thought to be a homosexual-only disease perhaps produced by high levels of promiscuity, injection drug use, and usage of poppers. Soon after, clusters of Kaposi's sarcoma and Pneumocycstis pneumonia were also reported in among Haitians recently entering the United States CDC and men with Haemophilia, among female sexual partners of AIDS patients, among children born to possibly infected mothers, and among blood transfusion recipients with no obvious risk factors. The term AIDS (for acquired immune deficiency syndrome) was proposed in 1982 by Bruce Voeller, among other researchers, concerned with the accuracy of the disease's name. In this new name, scientists were supported by political figures motivated by compassion and worried about homophobia.

In April 23, 1984, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Margaret Heckler announced at a press conference that an American scientist, Dr. Robert Gallo, had discovered the probable cause of AIDS: the retrovirus subsequently named human immunodeficiency virus or HIV in 1986. The virus had previously been discovered by researchers at the Institute Pasteur in France. It was given the acronym LAV and was subsequently renamed HIV.

After twenty years of research, both Kaposi's sarcoma and Pneumocycstis pneumonia are better understood as opportunistic infections occurring towards the end of the AIDS disease process.

Before the name GRID was fully rejected, ignorance about the basic scientific facts about the nature of the disease--in particular, about the transmissibility of the illness and the fact that it wasn't only a "gay disease" led to many unnecessary deaths. French, Canadian and Japanese political unwillingness to recognize the blood-borne nature of the disease, contrary to overwhelming scientific evidence, led to the unnecessary deaths of thousands of recipients of blood products, hemophiliacs and others, in these countries.[citation needed]

I hold gays responsible for the deaths of Hemophiliac children and other innocents killed as collateral damage to unprotected sex. Their blood is on the gays hands.

Interesting points made in the article they state "motivated by compassion" the name was changed. "It's ignorance about AIDS that kills". We are told this crap instead of the more obvious "sex with a carrier". Liberal Junk Science at its best

17 posted on 06/25/2006 4:40:25 PM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X = they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Clemenza; OldFriend

Would you believe Prudential didn't use that slogan for five years because of that? >>>

I never heard of that. Are they still using that slogan today?


18 posted on 06/25/2006 4:55:46 PM PDT by Coleus (RU-486 Kills babies & mothers, Bush can stop this as Clinton allowed it through executive order)
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To: Coleus

"At first, AIDS appeared to be a disease of gay men..."

And, after years of further research, by golly, it still is!


19 posted on 06/25/2006 4:59:10 PM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: TRY ONE
Which explains why this couldn't happen.
20 posted on 06/25/2006 5:08:17 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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