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Unfinished border business Bill Frist
Washington Times | June 25, 2006 | Bill Frist

Posted on 06/25/2006 12:10:17 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest

The immigration bill I voted for in the Senate started the United States down the road to a much better immigration system. But it's not finished.

In its broad outlines, I support the comprehensive approach that the Senate bill takes. History has taught us that immigration reform measures cannot work in isolation. Simply strengthening physical border security or beginning a guest worker program will not fix the deep, underlying problems in America's immigration system. Any bill Congress sends to the president must enhance border security, create an operational temporary worker program, provide for work-site enforcement, and address the status of the 12 million illegal immigrants already in the country.

As the House of Representatives conducts public hearings on immigration this summer, I believe it should aim to produce legislation that preserves the Senate's comprehensive approach while remedying certain flaws in the Senate bill. The Senate's legislation, I believe, is a mixed bag: It contains some good provisions, some that need work and some that have no place in a final bill.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnestysham; billfrist; frist; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; inartfuldodger; lieslieslies; s2611
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1 posted on 06/25/2006 12:10:18 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Doc Frist, telling us why amnesty is so good...


2 posted on 06/25/2006 12:10:31 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
and address the status of the 12 million illegal immigrants already in the country

Here, let me help you here. Their status: illegal. Now, what do we do with criminals? Gosh, they treat this stuff like it's so difficult.
3 posted on 06/25/2006 12:12:16 PM PDT by kingu (Yeah, I'll vote in 2006, just as soon as a party comes along who listens.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Mr. Frist the Bill you voted for sucked. Thank the Founders that the House stopped it. As for the rest of your performance as majority leader ?? It sucks too.


4 posted on 06/25/2006 12:12:40 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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Here's the link to the article:

http://washingtontimes.com/commentary/20060624-111827-5357r.htm


5 posted on 06/25/2006 12:14:38 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

The Drudge Report today has an article
titled "Bush and Republican Leaders
Regroup on Immigration Reform"

But Drudge's minions forgot to post
the link. Anyone know where that
article can be found? I've been
looking at all my Bookmarked sites
with no luck.


6 posted on 06/25/2006 12:17:39 PM PDT by Grendel9 (u)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Good Bye, Bill. I hope you enjoy your retirement in Tennessee. You will never see the inside of the Oval Office except as a visitor.

You are a good man but are sadly on the wrong side of this issue.

7 posted on 06/25/2006 12:18:56 PM PDT by Gritty (The Senate Bill is a cynical corruption of the integrity of US sovereignty and citizenship-Mk Steyn)
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To: sgtbono2002
Mr. Frist the Bill you voted for sucked.

It was atrocious. It's hard to believe Doc Frist is still attempting to peddle the scam that the Senate wasted our time with.

8 posted on 06/25/2006 12:19:24 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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How would Frist know that stengthening our border security won't work? We've never done it! It's frightening to think a person this ilequipped to make proper logical decisions, is the Senate Majority Leader.

When our laws are not observed and we are serious about stopping crime, we strengthen the penalties, not do away with them. The Senate bill rewards illegality. It's a sham.

Frist, get a grip!


9 posted on 06/25/2006 12:23:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The Democrat Leadership Trifecta 2006: Anti truth, U.S. and sanity. Another leftist generation lost.)
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To: Grendel9
The Drudge Report today has an article
titled "Bush and Republican Leaders
Regroup on Immigration Reform"

Who knows what it's going to take to bury this immigration "reform" beast once and for all. Bush simply will not take no for an answer.

10 posted on 06/25/2006 12:23:40 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Attention, Volunteers........

VOTE THE BUM OUT.

Thank you,
America


11 posted on 06/25/2006 12:23:45 PM PDT by DaBadGuy ("Do you know who invented dynamite? No? You know why? Because he blew his frigging FACE off!!!!!")
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Doc Frist, telling us why amnesty is so good...

woo - hoo.

12 posted on 06/25/2006 12:26:13 PM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ 2005, Texas Minutemen El Paso, Oct and April 2006)
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EXCERPT: Some Immigrants Are Offering Social Security Numbers for Rent

NY Times | 6/7/2005 | EDUARDO PORTER

Gerardo Luviano is looking for somebody to rent his Social Security number. Mr. Luviano, 39, obtained legal residence in the United States almost 20 years ago. But these days, back in Mexico....he is looking for an illegal immigrant in the United States to use it for him - providing a little cash along the way. "My brother in California has a friend who has crops and has people that need one."

Mr. Luviano's pending transaction is merely a blip in a shadowy yet vibrant underground market....undetected by American authorities, operating below the radar in immigrant communities from coast to coast, a secondary trade in identities has emerged straddling both sides of the Mexico-United States border.

Illegal immigrant workers usually earn so little they are owed an income tax refund...........The illegal immigrant "working the number" will usually pay the real owner by sharing the tax refund. Since legal American residents can lose their green cards if they stay outside the country too long, it is useful to have somebody working under their identity north of the border.

"Sometimes the one who is working doesn't mind giving all the refund, he just wants to work," said Fernando Rosales, who runs a shop preparing income taxes in the immigrant-rich enclave of Huntington Park, Calif.

The income tax "refund" is almost certainly generated by Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) fraud, which as a "legal resident" the number renter would qualify to receive, especially if they have have or claim children. The EITC is a "refundable tax credit, which means the IRS will pay it out even if no taxes have been withheld or paid in. So the IRS gives filers who claim the EITC "refunds," even if they have had no taxes withheld.

These number renters can claim up to $4,400 for the 2005 tax year in EITC "refunds," most of the number renters probably claim this maximum refund. The Additional Child Tax Credit is another "refundable" credit which is no doubt routinely claimed by these renters.

For 2005, if the number renter claimed $14,400 in wage income, and three children, between the EITC and the Additional Child Tax Credit the renter would, without having any taxes withheld from wages, receive a tax "refund" of $4,898, plus have $892 credited to Social Security; in addition to the potential of thousands of dollars in California unemployment compensation.

13 posted on 06/25/2006 12:29:35 PM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Dear Bill,

You suck and the Senate's bill sucks. I hope the American people with the help of the House shoves it down the Senate's throats and you all choke on it.

Sincerely,


14 posted on 06/25/2006 12:30:07 PM PDT by sheana
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History has taught us that...strengthening physical border security...will not fix...America's immigration system.

Senator Frist, what such border security has ever been tried? It hasn't Senator, you cannot cite any history because there isn't any. So why are you telling us this?

Maybe you are telling us this because you can't tell us the truth, which is that you are merely shilling for the cheap labor open border lobby who needs continued access to cheap labor whatever the cost to the country. Since you can't tell us that, you make up a bunch of patently untrue risible blather.

15 posted on 06/25/2006 12:32:00 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
I support a Guest Worker program WITHOUT a path to citizenship.

Once they become citizens, they must have minimum wage. I say , let them in, pay 50 cents an hour, and I best be seeing strawberries and lettuce a very reduced prices.

16 posted on 06/25/2006 12:33:19 PM PDT by PattonFan
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To: sheana

This why every fund raising letter I get from the Repubs right now gets sent back with "Control the border, No amnesty, sanction employers of illegals" written across it in big black magic marker. Not 1 dime. No precinct work, no votes if they don't get straight on this issue.


17 posted on 06/25/2006 12:34:24 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

"History has taught us that immigration reform measures cannot work in isolation."

What history amply demonstrates is that, when you don't enforce existing immigrations laws, you end up with a huge problem.

Don't take us for the kinds of fools that inhabit the Senate.

We don't need any new legislation at all -- proposed legislation is just another empty promise to enforce our laws if we agree first to give you the farm. Show us that you can enforce the laws that exist and we might give you an opportunity to make new or improved law. Until then, pound salt.


18 posted on 06/25/2006 12:35:49 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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Well, I guess they finally got the message from me. They quit sending them to me! rofl Seriously, I have not received one in quite awhile, guess they took me off their lists because they got tired of reading my messages back to them.


19 posted on 06/25/2006 12:36:47 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

The danger here is after the election. If the Republicans keep control, and that is not a given, then I see a chance that Bush, Kennedy, and the Republican leadership will cut a deal against the majority of Republicans in both houses. There is precedent of Presidents going against a majority of their own party. Bush did when he broke his no new taxes pledge and Clinton did it on Nafta. Of course both had severe consequences, Bush gave up re-election and Clinton lost the congress. But if Dubya would do that then the Republican Party would split in such a way that it would take a very long time to recover.But his old man ended his term in office waging war against conservatives in his own party. Many forget Newt did not appear in the Rose Garden when Bush signed the deal that broke his pledge. Of course Newt and conservatives were vindicated in 94. If Bush would go against conservatives on immigration, then he could feel very much at home after he left office with the three amigo President's tour of himself, his father, and the rapist in chief.


20 posted on 06/25/2006 12:37:20 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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