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Immigrant detention plan dismays critics
AP on Yahoo ^ | 6/24/06 | David Crary - ap

Posted on 06/24/2006 12:35:05 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 06/24/2006 12:35:09 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

It's always OUR fault. Go figure.


2 posted on 06/24/2006 12:35:35 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Imprison them? Just put 'em on a plane and send em home and bill their governments for the cost of enforcing our laws.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

3 posted on 06/24/2006 12:36:29 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Mario Rodas (C), 19, speaks at a 'Keep Mario Home' rally held outside of Chelsea High School in Chelsea, Massachusetts June 14, 2006. Rodas, an undocumented worker who came to the United States from Guatemala with his family at the age of 12, was picked up in a U.S. immigration sweep and now faces deportation. Photo taken June 14, 2006. To match feature LIFE DEPORTATION REUTERS/Jessica Rinaldi (UNITED STATES)


4 posted on 06/24/2006 12:37:20 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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U.S. Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez makes a point while speaking about immigration to the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials, which is holding its annual convention, in Dallas, Thursday, June 22, 2006. Gutierrez said that Americans can maintain a balance between enhancing border security and remaining a nation made up of immigrants. Emotions have encroached into the debate over how to reform immigration, keeping both sides from communicating effectively, Gutierrez said. (AP Photo/LM Otero)


5 posted on 06/24/2006 12:38:05 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: goldstategop; All

Invaders have special rights, bestowed on them unfortunately, yaknow, at least in some folks eyes anyway.


No one party or President is wholely responsible for this mess we're in, only the ones who chose to ignore what was happening for whatever reason, imo.

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I would ask folks to refrain from the use of words like
Nazi etc on this thread during an attempt at a civil discussion.. FR is above that, imo. We need to set an example to our gubamint if it is truly to be one with the people,, cursing and swearing and use of abusive language is not assisting us in moving toward that end, imo.


6 posted on 06/24/2006 12:44:03 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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This is the first time I have heard of immigrants being held in jail.
I thought these jails were for Criminals who overstay their visas and those who just invade.
7 posted on 06/24/2006 12:51:36 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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Crosslinked: For "Thunder on the Border," click the picture:


8 posted on 06/24/2006 12:56:38 PM PDT by backhoe
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FRom the article.. you have a lot of parties interested in keeping them around and initiating legal processes..

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More than 200,000 people are detained over the course of a year in any of three types of facilities — eight run by ICE itself, six run by for-profit companies that are eager for more business, and 312 county and municipal jails that have won lucrative federal contracts and hold about 57 percent of the detainees. Advocacy groups call it a hodgepodge system that is expensive and difficult to monitor.

"ICE hasn't done a good job with the facilities they directly manage, much less the ones they contract out," said Judith Greene, a New York-based prison expert. "Talking about doubling or tripling this system, without some kind of restructuring, is a recipe for a nightmare."

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9 posted on 06/24/2006 1:00:18 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: backhoe

Thank ye much for the link and reminder.


10 posted on 06/24/2006 1:00:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

New tagline.


11 posted on 06/24/2006 1:02:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Help the "Pendleton 8' --- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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Send 'em out to Sheriff Joe Arpio in Maricopa County, AZ along with enough dough to let Joe buy enough tents and pink underwear for them. Bet he could house a million or more for around a buck a piece per year which is about 11 months longer than it SHOULD take for them -- despite Tom Wolfe's line -- to WANT to go home again.

Given that projected turn-over rate, might take a year to get them all safely back home.

Sheriff Joe -- call your office.

My son told me about waiting forever behind one of our amigas and her large brood at the grocery check-out while the clerk struggled with entering her FOOD STAMP purchases into the system while she glared at him -- and he glared back. It was all he could do to contain himself as he thought about how hard HE worked to earn not only the funds to buy groceriers for himself, his wife and 2 year-old son BUT THE FUNDS THE IRS AND STATE CONFISCATED FROM HIM TO BUY HERS AS WELL!

When he got to the clerk, he asked if he could add HIS purchase to hers. The clerk rolled his eyes.

One way or another, THIS CRAP IS GONNA STOP!!!!

RE-ELECT NOBODY!!!!!!



12 posted on 06/24/2006 1:17:00 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (And we all move a step closer to the One World Utopia -- where all but a few will be slaves.)
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"But the greatest nation on earth must come up with a remedy that accords immigrants some respect, rather than throwing them in jail like animals."

Hey idiot...build a wall to keep the invaders out.

13 posted on 06/24/2006 1:22:39 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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You are right! Stop looking for extenuating circumstances. Ignore the ACLU and other whining Liberals. Load em up, ship em out, Rawhide!


14 posted on 06/24/2006 1:28:46 PM PDT by Focused Fury
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To: NormsRevenge

Thanks for looking.


15 posted on 06/24/2006 1:29:38 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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"ICE hasn't done a good job with the facilities they directly manage, much less the ones they contract out," said Judith Greene, a New York-based prison expert. "Talking about doubling or tripling this system, without some kind of restructuring, is a recipe for a nightmare."

Nightmare for who? The criminal illegal aliens? Awwwwwwwww.

If so, perhaps they will stop violating our border and immigration laws!

16 posted on 06/24/2006 1:53:39 PM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ 2005, Texas Minutemen El Paso, Oct and April 2006)
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"......the greatest nation on earth must come up with a remedy that accords immigrants some respect, rather than throwing them in jail like animals."

The reason we are the greatest nation on earth is b/c we are a nation of laws.

Now those immigrants who come here legally, and demonstrate they respect our laws, will be treated accordingly.

The reality of ones who cross our borders illegally show that firstly, they pay no state and federal taxes---ever. And using forged documents, several phony ID's and multiple SS #'s, they get welfare, food stamps, housing subsidies, reduced mortgages, free medical care, free education, reduced in-state tuition and out of state tuition for themselves and their mutiple kids.

Using multiple phony SS #'s, forged documents, and multiple IDs they collect several $4500-$5400 EICs from the IRS by declaring several names/jobs - just by going $1 over the income limit. And they collect for EINs, ITINs, Child Tax Credit, Additional Child Tax Credit (and didn't even pay taxes).

Using several phony identities, they can simultaneously pocket unemployment benefits, social security disability benefits for themselves and members of their large extended families, state and federal scholarships, free tuition, affirmative action preferences in education and employment, and got free coverage under state and/or federal health care plans.

All this including sending $38 billion per year out of the US economy back to Mexico---the second largest revenue producer for that country.

The contempt these predators have for Americans is just unbelievable--thinking we will sit still for the takeover of our government by predators who will use violence if necessary, to turn our gov't into a Third World banana republic.

17 posted on 06/24/2006 2:31:48 PM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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The detainees, she said, "are essentially warehoused" — without opportunities to exercise outdoors or take English-language classes. . . . Others say the detention program is too costly . . .

The Sheriff Arpio approach solves a lot of these problems-- they will get to exercise outdoors and learn English on the job. It will cost a LOT less. These same "advocates" are mad as hell about a proposal by Senator Goldwater's nephew which would also give them meaningful work fixing fences and cleaning up the pollution. There just ain't no pleasing some of these people.

18 posted on 06/24/2006 3:16:23 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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Many detention facilities — notably those in the Southwest — are geographically remote, with few pro bono attorneys nearby, and detainees often are transferred far from their home base. Other hurdles include inadequate law libraries in some facilities and steep telephone charges, lawyers said.

Home base? You mean Guatemala, Honduras and Mexico?

19 posted on 06/24/2006 3:43:02 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Allah is the opium pipedream of a desert pedophile...Freeper Ax)
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"But the greatest nation on earth must come up with a remedy that accords immigrants some respect, rather than throwing them in jail like animals."

Simple solution. Get out!

20 posted on 06/24/2006 8:43:25 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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