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Risky Bet on Immigration: House GOP leaders' stall could backfire
Dallas Morning News ^
| 6/22/2006
| Editorial
Posted on 06/22/2006 8:05:20 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: John Jorsett
Well, it's not too difficult to figure out that with citizenship comes voting privileges, and the pols think those new voters will vote for them.
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posted on
06/22/2006 10:51:21 AM PDT
by
savedbygrace
(SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
To: sinkspur
Thank you GOP house for turning back Ted Kennedy's open border betrayal of America.
Hopefully this hideous nation-killing migration explosion scheme will die and stay dead.
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posted on
06/22/2006 10:51:33 AM PDT
by
RodgerD
(Reject the Democrat's Migration Explosion Act of 2006. No to 70 million new third-world aliens.)
To: catholicfreeper
When you're giving them the facts, do you also tell them the Senate bill provides amnesty for the companies who have illegally hired illegal aliens?
Do you tell them the Senate bill provides amnesty for all illegal aliens who've committed felonies to obtain identification documents?
Do you tell them THOSE facts?
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posted on
06/22/2006 10:54:07 AM PDT
by
savedbygrace
(SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
To: catholicfreeper
The plan was ,till the house decided to have these hearings, was that all these stuff would be combined and the bad stuff in both bills be excised. That may have been the House's plan but the way Bush supports Kennedy's bill I'm not sure it would have turned out that way.
To: sinkspur
The Denver Post editor reported that
two-thirds of its Letters to the Editor were anti-illegal immigration. The editors of the DMN are certainly experiencing the same thing, and they know full well the breadth and intensity of feeling on this issue, without resort to bogus polls.
Letters to the editor...have also spiked. Cohen Peart, the letters editor at the Denver Post, said it's rare for a single topic to get more than about a 20% share of the letters submitted, but immigration fills two-thirds of his inbox. Some 90% are anti-immigration. Mr. Peart's counterpart at the Rocky Mountain News, Steve Oelrich, said the flood of letters "seems to be continuing pretty unabated."
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posted on
06/22/2006 10:59:49 AM PDT
by
Plutarch
To: sinkspur
And it certainly isn't the only voice in America. A Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll last week shows that, by 50 percent to 33 percent, Americans prefer the broad solution that President Bush has outlined and that the Senate largely adopted.Aren't you the one who is always saying (rightfully) that polls are meaningless and can be easily skewed by the wording?
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posted on
06/22/2006 11:12:15 AM PDT
by
jmc813
(The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
To: Iscool
DeVos is a globalist in the tradition of Bush...He and his family are also major-league scumbags who have ruined thousands of families. Please see Merchants of Deception.
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posted on
06/22/2006 11:17:20 AM PDT
by
jmc813
(The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
To: catholicfreeper
What is your take on Mike Pence's compromise?
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posted on
06/22/2006 11:19:53 AM PDT
by
jmc813
(The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
To: jmc813
Aren't you the one who is always saying (rightfully) that polls are meaningless and can be easily skewed by the wording? Yes. And they can be. The bottom line here is that the GOP is taking a big risk by doing nothing on immigration. AFAIC, that's a good thing as it leaves the status quo in place.
No bill this year means there won't be a bill during Bush's presidency.
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posted on
06/22/2006 11:20:18 AM PDT
by
sinkspur
(Today, we settled all family business.)
To: sinkspur
LIE !!!! BS !!!!! CRAP !!!!!
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posted on
06/22/2006 11:22:05 AM PDT
by
devane617
(It's McCain and a Rat -- Now what?)
To: sinkspur
Yes. And they can be. The bottom line here is that the GOP is taking a big risk by doing nothing on immigration. AFAIC, that's a good thing as it leaves the status quo in place. No bill this year means there won't be a bill during Bush's presidency. In my opinion, no bill would be better than having the Senate bill, though I'd be OK with the Pence comprimise. What say you?
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posted on
06/22/2006 11:39:19 AM PDT
by
jmc813
(The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
To: jmc813
There are things I don't like about the Pence deal buts its a start. At least it is a vehicle to keep the ideas flowing. TO be honest, I am not sure what the reason is behind all illegals having to leave the country for a week to sign in across the border in his proposal. It sounds like to me that it would be more effective and cheaper to do it regionally. I suppose its symbolism. The guest worker program would be in there and it ties alot of stuff into real border security. I think there are parts of it that have real merit. I think its a start and might be the only solution that could mitigate the worse side effects of the house bill.
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posted on
06/22/2006 11:43:41 AM PDT
by
catholicfreeper
(I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
To: jmc813
Pence would work for me, too. He deals in reality, where many in the House would rather dream that the borders can be closed, and all the illegals currently here are just going to go home because a business or two gets raided.
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posted on
06/22/2006 11:49:26 AM PDT
by
sinkspur
(Today, we settled all family business.)
To: ckilmer
You make some good points in your post. But in the end, greed wins out. It costs nothing for Messssico to just ship their social problems up north.
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posted on
06/22/2006 11:52:43 AM PDT
by
taxed2death
(A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
To: Reaganwuzthebest
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posted on
06/22/2006 11:53:02 AM PDT
by
VOA
To: sinkspur
Sinkspur post #89 "...doing nothing on immigration. AFAIC, that's a good thing as it leaves the status quo in place."
So you're just fine with thousands streaming across our borders each week?
Sinkspur post 93 "Pence would work for me, too"..
and you're just fine with the "pathway to citizenship" left in there for illegals.
Thanks for clearing that up for us.
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posted on
06/22/2006 11:58:12 AM PDT
by
taxed2death
(A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
To: catholicfreeper
I am not sure what the reason is behind all illegals having to leave the country for a week to sign in across the border in his proposal. It sounds like to me that it would be more effective and cheaper to do it regionally.This would be so they could be screened for diseases as well as have a criminal background check performed. Those who fail these checks would be left in Mexico. With this new system in place, illegals who refuse to go home for these checks would not be desirable hires for employers. I think it's a pretty well thought out plan.
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posted on
06/22/2006 11:58:46 AM PDT
by
jmc813
(The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
To: taxed2death
There is no "pathway to citizenship" in Pence's bill.
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posted on
06/22/2006 12:00:06 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
(Today, we settled all family business.)
To: sinkspur
Pence would work for me, too. He deals in reality, where many in the House would rather dream that the borders can be closed, and all the illegals currently here are just going to go home because a business or two gets raided.I'm glad you're on board with the Pence plan although Pence does want the borders closed and stepped-up enforcement on employers.
I've observed that Pence is able to attract folks on your side of this issue as well as people such as myself who are a bit more hard-line. Because of this, I feel he is a major rising star in the GOP.
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posted on
06/22/2006 12:02:09 PM PDT
by
jmc813
(The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
To: taxed2death; sinkspur
and you're just fine with the "pathway to citizenship" left in there for illegals.There is no pathway to citizenship in the Pence plan. Workers on W visas would have to leave after a period of time.
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posted on
06/22/2006 12:03:44 PM PDT
by
jmc813
(The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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